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New WiFi Standards, Double the Data?

morkeleb writes "According to the New York Times (free reg. req.), just when you thought it was safe to stock your home or office the 802.11x way, another possibility springs up. From Stanford and Bell Labs comes an approach using MIMO, which 'relies on taking advantage of huge amounts of computing power to send numbers of signals from closely spaced antennas', thereby enhancing range and throughput. Looks like Intel and Nokia are interested in the technology, as well as a number of highroller venture capitalist groups."

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  1. Lame. by tevenson · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I just bought my 802.11g card/router and now this?!? Once you buy computer parts and accesories you should just cut yourself off from the rest of the world so you don't know what better/cheaper stuff has come out. Because I seriously almost get migraine headache when I realize something out now is 1/2 the price and 4x the performance.

    GAH.

    1. Re:Lame. by Golias · · Score: 2, Insightful
      What!? A new wireless technology is in the concept phase and seeking investors, meaning we might see a better wireless product on the market in five years or so!?!?

      What a fool I was to frivolously piss away that $200 on an Airport 802.11b hub, which runs at almost 10 times by DSL connection speed, a mere year ago! If only I had waited! Sure, it would mean I have had nothing for all of last year, and nothing for all of this year, and nothing for quite some time to come, but at least I would have had the promise of a much broader pipe to connect to the tiny trickle of data coming through my broadband connection... if and when it arrives, without having frittered away all that money on an industry-standard wireless network that will only be useful for another 10 years or so.

      Oh, woe! The crying shame of it all!!!

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  2. Forget home use, think larger by cyberlotnet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article mentions longer distances "two to six times as far as current tech"
    This means 200-900 feet.. Even if you say 500 feet, that would be insane.. Imagine that + a pringle can...

  3. Not backwards compatable? I don't care! by peterdaly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't care! At those rates and ranges, if they can provide equipment at consumer market prices and linux drivers I'll buy their product.

    They may be a logical jump for "private" networks still on 802.11b. Skip G all together, which last I knew had little to know Linux support.

    Not only faster, but my whole house should be covered. Now w/ 11b, I have dead spots in the far reaches of my not so large house. 100m/b to boot!

    -Pete

  4. RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    It says that it has a range 2 to 6 times greater than 802.11x.

    For god's sake! RTFA

  5. Compatibility is king. by xanderwilson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The new wi-fi "standard" can ben ten times as fast as "b" or "g" and I still wouldn't regret buying my Airport Extreme this year. I've got PCs and Macs and a printer all talking to each other quickly and wirelessly and I didn't have to upgrade a single thing I wasn't ready to upgrade (in terms of money or in terms of time--I can't count how many network cards--wireless and wired--caused system conflicts on my PCs and it took forever to get it working right. I'm not changing anything I don't have to until I have to). I got a performance boost (a more solid signal) without touching the network cards themselves.

    Alex.

  6. longer range is more important than increased data by leoaugust · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i think extending the range is the critical bit that would make or break many business plans, compared to the less important higher data speeds .. The leverage that you get from the increased data speeds is not as much as it is in the gains of distance.

    2 to six times increased range in radius means, 4 to 36 times in area coverage .. which is big enough to make currently dead plans alive and healthy. If I could get these sort of gains i.e. 4 to 36, in the potential of revenue generation with the same cost of initial deployment, I think the technology will be of very much interest to me ... just need to go back and crunch my numbers again

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  7. Re:Stop, I want to get on by Kjella · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most people are looking at a package deal anyway. A card type and an access point that work together, and that's it. Doesn't matter where in the alphabet soup it is really, only throughput. For those big roaming networks (like Universities etc.), the techs will have sufficient knowledge.

    I can see lots of cool things I'd want to do with high-bandwidth wireless, and if you can't imagine any, well I think you're in a minority. When the wireless speeds reach 100Mbit+, we can start talking about stopping and standardizing :)

    Kjella

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  8. Re:Closely spaced antennas by esorense · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...signals from closely spaced antennas.
    The "closely spaced" antennas are on both the transmit and receive sides. This means you could have 4 closely spaced antennas transmiting and 3 antennas reciever. Of course the antennas can be used to both transmit and recieve.

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  9. Re:Stop, I want to get on by pclminion · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It's more important to have consistent standards that work and that everbody understands than to get additional speed that few people will need.

    No, it's better to spend a lot of time experimenting with different technologies, and determining the strengths and weaknesses of each, before settling on a single standard that could possibly lock us all in to a mediocre technology for decades to come (see Microsoft, x86 platform, etc.).

    WiFi hasn't been around that long. I'm willing to wait several more years before standardization. The last thing I want is for everyone to rush to a standard and pour time, money, and effort into it, when we don't even know what the other options are, yet.

    If 802.11* turns out to be pretty stupid compared to some of the newer tech, then won't we all feel dumb after investing thousands in wireless gear, and even dumber that we now have to restrict ourselves to equipment which is backward compatible with a deficient standard. I'm not saying this has happened, but obviously it could.

    Be patient and let people experiment with new tech, we'll all come out better for it in the end...

  10. I'm curious, what's the pringle can for? by Eevee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you're getting the extra distance and speed from the special MIMO antenna set, why would you want to replace it with a pringles can? Or, if you're going to use a pringles can, why are you buying the more expensive tech?

  11. Re:US Robotics by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let's compare apples to apples here.

    802.11g: 54Mbps theoretical, 25 Mbps actual
    USR: 100Mbps theoretical, ? Mbps actual

    I'm more interested in the Atheros turbo mode which claims 90 Mbps actual throughput.