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Seven Spam Filters Compared

Goo.cc writes "Those wondering how their spam filtering software performs in comparison to other's may want to read this article on Freshmeat, where Sam Holden performs comparative testing of various popular e-mail filters. The filters tested includes Bayesian Mail Filter, Bogofilter, dbacl, Quick Spam Filter, SpamAssassin, SpamProbe, and SPASTIC."

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  1. Mozilla? by HBI · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have seen at least two of these comparisons and no one seems to want to roll Mozilla's spam filter into the mix and compare it. Therefore, the comparisons are kind of useless to me. I am guessing I am not the only person using Moz either, for specifically this reason (ease of use for Bayesian filtering).

    What's up with that? I know it's not a proxy, so the methodology is different than most of the products in the comparison. I'm very interested in how well the filter works however, compared to these other products.

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    1. Re:Mozilla? by wilfie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The loss of bandwidth is not the main cost of spam these days.Certainly not internal bandwidth between our mail server and desktops. The excellent features of doing it on my desktop are that the filter is learning about what _I_ consider to be spam and ham, and that I have the stuff that's classified as spam to hand and can check it through once in a while. So far for me it's only thrown false positives when colleagues have sent stuff that was spammy in content. I have a presentiment that our CEO's habit of writing in red HTML (full of ff0000) will cause a false hit one day.

    2. Re:Mozilla? by hdw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Most people can't filter their email at the server, since most people doesn't have access to a server to filter at.

      So the majority has to filter locally, either in the client or with a local pop/imap proxy (like PopFile).

      // hdw

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  2. OT: Disturbing? by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does anyone find it disturbing that --

    a. Spam Filter software company is now a "viable business."
    b. Spam Filer is needed AT ALL?

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  3. Re:Good testing, but not enough samples by Sanctuary · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They didn't train Spamassassin to use the bayes filter once during the test, and they used it with out all the other scoring tools for Spamassassin. This review really didn't completely test Spamassassin's full potential.

  4. SpamAssasin had Bayesnian turned off?! by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I noticed immediately that the author turned off SpamAssasin's Bayesnian filter, claiming "it already has 5 points, that's enough". WTF does that mean? The whole point of SpamAssasin is to do a lot of tests, and add the scores together- and then set the threshold you want(something he also doesn't modify- I changed my threshold after looking at the scores spams were getting and such.)

    I trained SA's bayesnian filter off of about 3 years of spam and legitimate email sent directly to me. SA as a whole is working nearly flawlessly- the only messages it has tagged as spam were those from users with improperly configured email clients AND suspicious email addresses AND using only HTML. Ie, a message that would damn well look like spam. However, like I said, I lowered SA's threshold by 2 points because I was having too many false positives(that was before I had properly trained the Bayesnian filter, so perhaps I'll kick it up a point now.)

    One important note- when you get a falsely classified message, it's REALLY important to tell Spamassasin's bayesnian filter about it. It's as easy as cut+paste if you do sa-learn --spam/--ham --single, hit enter, paste the message, hit control D. Done!

  5. A message from a spammer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As a professional sender of UCE, I just want to tell you slashdotters to keep on playing with your spam fileters. As long as you use spam filters on your e-mail, I can continue to reach my real intended targets, those non-slashdotters who do not know better and will buy my products or click through to my client's websites. You filters really help cut down on the complaints to the internet service providers I do business with, and as long as not too many complaints come in their marketing people assure me we can do business. Of course, I still waste your bandwidth and mailbox capacity, but you no longer complain to uce@ftc.gov, my access providers, or anyone else who might cause me problems. My yahoo and hotmail and other accounts for replies are lasting much longer before getting shut down because someone complained to these service providers. And my clients are even reporting that they can start mailing out 800 numbers like 1-800-901-3719 again and they will not have you damn spammers set up their modems to keep autodialing them, since you spend your own time and effort to filter the e-mail and only clueless users who might actually call see the numbers.

    Please don't bother your Congressmen or Senators proposing legialation that might not work 100%. Just keep on filtering the spam I send you, I know you would have never bought from me anyway. That you can filter ligitimizes my business and my waste of your bandwidth.

    P.S. To be sure of not getting a false positive , be sure to send all filtered mail to a special folder. Waste your storage space storing the mail until you manually go through every piece to be sure you didn't accidentally filter something important. Of course, this will take exactly as much effort as it would have to just check the e-mail when it first came in, not to mention the extra effort spent in setting up the filters and the extra space for storing your incoming spam folder, but what the heck. You geeks enjoy wasting time this way, and I certainly appreciate it. It makes the work of all us spammers much easier.

    1. Re:A message from a spammer by mce · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's more to the time-spent-on-spam comparison than what you wrote. If you filter all the spam and quickly check it once a day or once a week, you only look at it whenever you "want" to: i.e. probably during a dead moment inbetween meetings or some such. But if you let it get into your inbox, whatever you're doing may needlessly get interrupted every so many minutes/hours. After all, each e-mail that reaches your inbox might (for instance) be that one important reply you're waiting for and have to process asap...

  6. Re:So weird by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Don't spend time trying to filter-- get an obscure email adress like saf4502@E8Hkl3.biz

    This is a pretty bogus "fix". It might work if you set up such an account and never use it, but if it's used and gets into a spam database the computers can proprigate this e-mail address just like they can any other. The spam database computers simply don't care if the name is "joe" or "saf4502", they deal with both exactly the same. All you'll really do is make it harder for you to pass along an e-mail address verbally to someone.

    Spammers get these addresses any number of ways. Many are harvested tens of thousands at a time. If you ever use that e-mail address in a usenet news group, for example, it will get harvested. Of course, you can munge it and give instructions in the post for how someone wanting to reply should unmunge it (replace the number in my name with the square root of the number) but realistically few are going to bother to go to extra work to unmunge an e-mail address, so if you made a post to really try to get some information back rather than to just hear yourself talk, that's a big waste.

    Same if you want to post a contact e-mail on your website.

    Businesses you deal with are even less likely to unmunge your e-mail address, and if they do you certainly have no protection that they are not the ones about to sell their mailing list database to a spammer.

    And even if you just keep your e-mail adderess for close personal contacts, one of them may eventually come across what they think is a "cute" electronic greeting card site on the web and give them your address to send some damn picture of a dancing bunny, or use your e-mail address on some site with an "e-mail to a friend" link for a story they think you would be interested in, or even just let their computer get infested with some worm that goes through address books, and your adddress is in some spam database, soon to be in thousands. Having a hard to remember e-mail address is no more protection than having an easy to use one is.

    I even created a dummy e-mail address one time on Mindspring, with a very uncommon name and numbers. Never used it. It started getting spam after a while. Either Mindspring sold the names, or they had a bad security system and some employee sold the names, or they had a really bad security system and someone hacked in and harvested the names.

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  7. Re:Good testing, but not enough samples by skookum · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Agreed. The author made up the artificial constraint that "no program is allowed to contact the network" which means that SpamAssassin wasn't able to check the DNS blacklists for things like exploited open proxies/relays in the Received chain, or to check with distributed signiture services like RAZOR/DCC, etc.

    If you're not going to let the program use its full capabilities, why test it?

    Analogously, what kind of hardware review site would do a review along the lines of "This motherboard supports this extra feature that will improve CPU speed noticeably, but we're going to disable it for our tests (even though most of you would want to use it.)"

  8. Re:Good testing, but not enough samples by hamster+foo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Also, SpamAssassin has a Bayesian classifier built in, but it wasn't used in these tests, since having five was enough."

    While I'm sure the recommendations set forth in Spam Assassin's man page are probably a good idea for all Bayesian training sets, he wasn't using the Bayesian filtering included in Spam Assassin, so you can't really fault him for not reading a section of the man page for a feature he was choosing to leave out.

    It would have been nice to see him turn on Spam Assassin's Bayesian filtering at least in some of the tests. I don't think test results with a feature I would imagine the vast majority of users would used turned off is a very good comparison of the different packages abilities.

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