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Drink Coffee, Support Mozilla

MikeCapone writes "Heavy coffee-drinking Mozilla fans take notice, MozillaZine has a story on how some coffee company has dedicated a selection of gourmet coffees to helping the Mozilla foundation. Only half the profits go to Mozilla, but the coffee seems good..."

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  1. Fair trade coffee? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Does anyone know if this is fair trade coffee?
    I see that it's possible to buy organic coffee, but I can't find a word about the origin of this coffee, and the farmers that produced it.
    If this is no fair trade coffee, that I don't want to buy this: fair trade, and a right price for the farmers is still much more important to me than the Mozilla project...
    After all, the concept of fair trade is something that should go well with the Mozilla ideals, isn't it??

    1. Re:Fair trade coffee? by DenialS · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The web site doesn't explicitly state that it is fair trade coffee, so you have to assume that it is not fair trade coffee. Well, I have to assume that, anyways, based on the following logic: you're not going to lose many sales to rabid capitalists if you quietly state 'All coffee that we sell is fair trade'--but you will gain sales from moderate liberals like me.

      Instead, I'll continue to get my coffee from Merchants of Green Coffee, where you have a wide choice of green, fair-trade, organic coffees that you can roast to suit your own tastes.

      Oh yeah, and I plan to donate directly to the Mozilla Foundation so 100% of my money goes there.

      Don't get me wrong--the owner is trying to do the right thing, and it's a step in the right direction for the Ayn Rand-ish culture of "every ethical choice is a selfish choice"--in this case, consumers get to contribute in a small way to the Mozilla Foundation by exercising well-honed consumption skills and getting coffee as a result. It's just not a formula that suits my personal tastes.

    2. Re:Fair trade coffee? by forkboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I used to run a coffee shop. 3/4 of the "fair trade" whiners that came in were wearing clothing and sneakers made by foreign child labor. I'm not saying you're the same way, I'm just commenting on how your average American cares about human rights only when it is trendy to do so.

      These are the same people that bitch about what bad drivers people are while they themselves are driving a truck or SUV that's 2 sizes too big for them while juggling a coffee in one hand and a cell phone in the other.

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  2. Re:1/2 is HUGE by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Interesting

    yeah the usual you see around here in is like one cent per one euro of purchase.. depending on the profit margin i still would say 1/2 of the profits to be bigger than that.

    too bad i don't drink coffee though.. now some tea would be excellent but i guess i could getter better tea through my chinese flatmate.

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  3. How much is half the profit by Bananenrepublik · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's great, except that they forgot to tell us how much money half the profit actually is. Prepare for the lame "Uhm, sorry, but actually we made zero profit with that coffee." excuses.

  4. Re:Good deal... by Vexalith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Damn, I should have RTFA. That is expensive. I think I'll stick to supermarket coffee and send Mozilla the money directly.

  5. Re:1/2 is HUGE by Accipiter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    too bad i don't drink coffee though..

    Who cares? Buy a bag and give it to someone who does. I'm not a coffee drinker at all, but I'm buying a bag right now just to show support for this endeavor. This is an EXTREMELY generous offer on the part of RJ Tarpley, and I plan on thanking them by thanking the Mozilla Foundation at the same time.

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  6. This is the right way! by ksheka · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm surprised no one has thought of this before. We should support those that support open software.

    A retailer brands a product with Mozilla (or Linux, etc.), gives a large portion of the profit to the community, and advertises that they do it.

    The problem with previous implementations is that people don't buy too many T-shirts or mugs or things.

    Those that buy coffee buy lots of it. How about a bottled water for OpenOffice.org, or a line of soda for AbiWord?

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  7. Re:What is "fair"? by Hard_Code · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You're right. Everybody (i.e., large agribusiness) should be able to compete to exploit poor workers in countries with no human rights enforcement...

    "Fair" trade would only not be fair market if it were somehow subsidized to be as cheap as non-fair trade. If you look at its price it is obviously more expensive, and hence a direct relationship with its share of the market (although even more publicity is fine by me).

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  8. Re:Good deal... by macshit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Gee, I never really thought about it very much, but I pay (in Japan) about 500yen/100g, which works out to about $20/lb!!!! Gah... (and that's nowhere near the most expensive)

    Does taste good though.

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  9. Kill me now. by praksys · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On the other hand people who drink coffee are much less likely to commit suicide. If you avoid all the unhealthy pleasures in life then your body might wind up in better shape, but you will wish you were dead.

  10. Re:Raiseing money for OSS is good, but please by ksheka · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, caffiene is one of the treatments for headaches. Look at the ingrediants for Excedrin (a medicine for migraine headaches), and it contains caffiene.

    Caffiene withdrawals, on the other hand, can cause headaches...

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  11. Re:Great Marketing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Or maybe, just maybe, the owner likes Mozilla and wants to help? Not all business owners are heartless Machiavellian money grabbers. I am not saying it is completely alruistic, it is likely tax deductable, but to think the profit he makes off slashdotters is significant in the long run is silly. /. is a flash in the pan, any subject that is on the front page gets a lot of attention but for the majority of /. it is an "out of sight out of mind" thing. The marginal boost in sales they might get for a week or two is not that sigificant. Nice yes, but not as important as steady customers.

  12. Netcraft says... by mr.henry · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They are running FreeBSD. This sort of pandering doesn't really do much for me, but at least these guys aren't pitching their 'Mozilla Coffee' with IIS.

  13. Re:What is "fair"? by Eric+Ass+Raymond · · Score: 2, Interesting
    If the answer is "yes," then the problem is political, not economic. Perhaps you'd support an Iraq-style liberation? If the answer is "no," then it is not slavery!

    So you've basically absolved yourself of any responsibility towards the people whose work brings a hot cup of coffee on your table every day? What a humanitarian.

    But of course, if we don't bother ourselves with ethics, one can take that stance. Nothing however puts you in the position to criticize people who think the current situation is wrong and these people deserve a fair pay for their products.

    I am one of the latter, simply because the economy is based on invidivual, voluntary trades, so why should those who choose not to participate benefit from others' trades?

    Huh? And how does the Fair Trade concept violate these principles?

  14. Re:What is "fair"? by heff · · Score: 2, Interesting

    when i first heard about the "Fair Trade" thing my first thought was that it was just another excuse to start a non - profit and then bully companies into buying 'licenses' or some crap. I still believe this today.

    My girlfriend works for a non profit and its amazing how the funds get sucked up into 'administrative costs' instead of actually going to the 'cause'.

    After all, if the non-profits fixed the problem they were trying to solve, they would by definition be out of business.

    And dont let them fool you, it's very much a business.

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  15. Re:Have you ever considered... by pyrrhonist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Have you considered checking references?
    There doesn't appear to be any definitive proof either way.

    Articles that cite more in depth references:
    http://lrs.ed.uiuc.edu/students/tchen 3/health.html
    http://www.coffeeperks.com/health.html
    http://w ww.firstpath.com/scripts/cgiip.exe/story.h tml?article=1534
    http://www.cosic.org/health/preg nancy/

    You may have a high IQ, but you're still full of crap. ;)

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