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FWB Admits RealPC for Mac OS X was Vaporware

reiggin writes "In a press release on their site, FWB's new management comes clean and says that the former management had been lying about an upcoming RealPC OS X release. Apparently, not one line of code had even been written. This is a huge disappointment for anyone looking for an alternative to the now-MS owned Virtual PC (which, incidentally, Apple and Microsoft have said will not initially run on a G5)."

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  1. There's always bochs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's always bochs. Open source too.
    http://bochs.sf.net

    1. Re:There's always bochs by pajamacore · · Score: 5, Informative

      To go along with that, there's a decent Aqua GUI for Bochs--Wintel by OpenOSX.

    2. Re:There's always bochs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      In the interest of full disclosure, OpenOSX has been accused of stealing intellectual property from the Fink project. While there's no conclusive information about this accusation out there, there's plenty of evidence on the Fink project web site, and no response to the contrary from OpenOSX. So it's wise to make careful decisions about whether or not one should support OpenOSX in any way, including using their software.

    3. Re:There's always bochs by cerberusss · · Score: 5, Interesting
      There's always bochs
      While I agree that Bochs is very nice, the installation is hard, the interface is very oldfashioned and most importantly, it's barely workable because it's so damned slow.
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  2. SCO sues FWB for copyright infringement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO today announced they would be suing FWB, non-makers of the non-existant RealPC OS, over their use of SCO's intellectual property in their code. "Just like SCO, FWB has not written one line of code in this OS, and for that, they will pay." said SCO's lead attorney Michael Newstrom.

  3. New Strategy! by PopeAlien · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Honesty and openness with the user base is a cornerstone of the new management team. "

    This strategy was struck upon after it was discovered that the previous strategy of dishonesty and disceit was not as effective as originally hoped.

    Look out SCO!

  4. here you go kids, a start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    #include

    int main()
    {
    }

    now get to it!

  5. Re:Wine? by bmetz · · Score: 5, Informative

    WINE = Wine Is Not an Emulator.

    It is an API translation layer, not an x86 emulator. Thank you, drive through.

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  6. Re:Wine? by JPRelph · · Score: 5, Informative

    You have to remember though that WINE Is Not an Emulator. It allows Windows programs to run on Linux on the x86 platform but doesn't actually emulate the x86 processor.

    So you could use it as a start for a new Mac emulator but you'd have to build the chip emulator to fit underneath that.

    JP

  7. Re:Now isn't *that* a surprise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually I'm fairly sure that the union of the sets includes all the members from both sets. What is in question is the intersection of the two sets. Which is also probably fairly large.

  8. Re:Wine? by metatruk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wine only translates from the Windows APIs into X11 and other such things. There is no x86 emulation done, which is one of the reasons Wine is so fast. In order for this to work on a Macintosh system, you'd either have to be using PowerPC Windows binaries (which there are few of) or you'd have to include an x86 emulation engine in Wine.

  9. Blame it on the previous guy by FearUncertaintyDoubt · · Score: 5, Funny
    Recent management changes at FWB has led to a major evaluation of the status of development work including Realpc...

    "The previous management had made claims in press interviews and on the company website regarding the status and upcoming release of RealPC OSX claiming it was in late beta and about to be released...I am sorry to have to admit that apparently the company has been a party to vaporware when it comes to the claims regarding RealPC."

    Reminds me of an old joke...

    Stalin is dying, and summons Comrade Khrushchev to his bedside. Wheezing his last few words with difficulty, Stalin tells Khrushchev, "Comrade, the reins of the country are now in your hands. But before I go, I want to give you some advice."

    "Yes, yes, Great Leader, what is it?" says Khrushchev. Reaching under his pillow, Stalin produces two envelopes marked 1 and 2. "Take these letters," he tells Khrushchev. "Keep them safely - don't open them. Only if the country is in turmoil and things start going bad, open the first one. That'll give you some advice on what to do. And, even after that, if things start going REALLY bad, open the second one." And with a gasp Stalin breathed his last.

    Well, Khrushchev succeeded him, and sure enough, within a few years things started going bad - unemployment increased, crops failed, people became restless. Nikita decided it was time to open the first letter. All it said was: "Blame everything on me!" So Khrushchev launched a massive deStalinization campaign, and blamed Josef for all the excesses and purges and ills of the present system, and bought himself some time that way.

    But things continued on the downside - Kennedy successfully rebuffed Soviet missiles in Cuba, unemployment increased even more, crops failed even more, the Politburo was unhappy with Khrushchev's leadership and upstarts like Brezhnev and Gromyko were threatening his credibility. So finally, after much deliberation, Nikita opened the second letter.

    All it said was: "Write two letters."

  10. Re:Now isn't *that* a surprise? by larkost · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually it was a hostile shareholder revolt. In fact the old management has been playing a lot of games (locking the new management out of offices, removing documentation, stealing computers, etc...). There was a nice little article about it written by the new manager (can't find the link now).

    So could someone drop the "Insightful" mod off the parent comment, and add an "uninformed" one?

  11. Re:Now isn't *that* a surprise? by BlueGecko · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, I feel very sorry for the new management. According to this interview with the new CEO, the old management literally locked their offices, stole the equipment, and has generally made life for the new people a living hell. Although I suppose it's possible that the entire interview at that site was staged, and honestly do not know the background story behind the whole escapade, it does not appear to me as if this was a SCO-like deceptive tactic by the old managers to try to get out of a bind.

  12. CEO Interview by Srsen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's quite an interesting interview with the new CEO that reveals just what a bunch of crooks the former management were. Interesting read:

    http://macdiscussion.com/article_show.php3?artic le _id_var=241

  13. Time for hardware fix by Glock27 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    G5s have PCI-X slots. Someone should make an ~$200 x86 card with sufficient performance to run Windows. Perhaps a low-power AMD Duron plus integrated graphics and up to, say, 1 GB RAM (256 MB standard). Mass storage could come from some virtualized Mac resources...perhaps Samba. Low-power Athlons could be used for upscale versions with more performance.

    I'm sure Microsoft would go for an OEM bundle approach on XP Home, so that would only add $30 or so (maybe less). What did the emulators cost?

    The only downside to this approach is that it involves opening the case and inserting a card, anathema for many Mac people. The obvious answer is a micro-form-factor PC hooked up via Firewire 800, with some (simple) custom software to handle display on the Mac. This should go for under $300.

    OK, now that we have a business plan, who's ready to hire me as CTO? :-)

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  14. OpenOSX is iffy by Whumpsnatz · · Score: 5, Informative

    I attempted to purchase something from OpenOSX, and never received anything. To their credit, they eventually refunded my money - but only after I resorted to vulgar screaming emails to whoever I could find. There certainly was nothing helpful on their site to address the problem.

    Of course, now I'm glad I never got anything from them.

  15. Re:That's OK... by RocketScientist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow. Mozilla ate the post I had written.

    To answer your question, here's the short list of what I need VPC for:

    1. SQL Server Management Tools: Enterprise Manager, ISQL/W, and so on.

    2. Outlook to Exchange 5.5 integration. Yeah, Entourage works great for Exchange 2000, but it still don't work worth talking about against Exchange 5.5.

    3. Testing sites on IE 6. It's just wacky enough to need separate testing.

    4. Various Windows network admin apps (User Manager, Share Management, Server Manager).

    All told, I get into it once or twice every 3 or 4 weeks. It's not like buying a PS2 to play zelda, it's more like buing a Torx screwdriver: I don't use it often, but when I need it, I REALLY need it, right then. Am I in it all the time? Nope. But I use it enough to justify buying it (err...making my employer buy it :) )

    Hope that clears things up.