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University Textbook Exchange Software

PageMap writes "With the textbook-buying season upon us, many universities and student organizations are attempting to combat the on-campus bookstore's overcharging by starting up their own grassroots book exchange efforts. The problem is the seeming lack of available web-based software to facilitate an efficient book exchange. Is there such a thing as free web-based software made for this type of use?"

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  1. Seems Easy by l810c · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Depending on how you wanted to do it, it seems like it would be fairly easy to modify a store front or auction software to handle the specifics of text books.

    1. Re:Seems Easy by yintercept · · Score: 1, Insightful

      A large number of students seem to be using amazon.com, half.com, powells, and or ebay to sell off and buy text books.

      Why not use the blood sucking immoral capitistic programs provided by the free market?

  2. Are you talking legally or illegally? by cliffy2000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At my school, we kept PDFs of the student solutions manuals on the school network. This was probably a violation of copyright law, but it's an effective countermeasure to being charged $40 for a tiny paperback book.

  3. No. by yerricde · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What you are looking for is consumer-to-consumer sales software. This is often done with an auction model. However, most technologies to do C2C are patented out the you-know-whatse in many jurisdictions, either by eBay or by the latest holding company to sue eBay.

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  4. Sourceforge by ibjhb · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Is where I would look....

    http://sourceforge.net/

  5. Price gouging on-campus bookstore by AsmordeanX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In my first two years I faithfully bought my books from either the campus bookstore or the student union run bookstore (student's consign their books)

    Then I discovered Chapters (Maybe Amazon is the same) would order almost anything. Of course there was a week or two waiting period but when you are talking $63.50 versus $118.95 it is worth it.

    So if your prof. insists on using new books or has to have the latest edition, don't forget book stores. Even smaller ones can sometimes order in texts, you just have to pay in advance because they can't sell it to normal people if you don't buy.

    1. Re:Price gouging on-campus bookstore by jamesh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I started a C/S course in 1994, and likewise dutifully purchased all my texts. I stalled a bit the next year but bought most of them again. Finally it dawned on me that I was getting nothing out of them, wasn't using them, and could have purchased them half price from the "i'm only at uni because that's what I thought I was supposed to do after school" dropouts. (OT flamebait - how can Universities claim they need more places when (in my experience) 80% of first year enrollments eventually drop out, and should never have gone to uni in the first place!!!)

  6. Re:DIY by Xerithane · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Web Based? In C? This is why amateur programmers don't do large scale projects.

    It is a fairly simple procedure, but if you don't know about code why don't you stop telling people to do it themselves. It's obviously outside of your grasp, and if you think that 1,000 lines of C code could come close I'll pay you a dollar a line to come up with a complete P2P book selling server with client software that is cross platform.

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  7. not that I like it... by mrscorpio · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But subverting one of the university's ways of making money just means they have to raise tuition...they'll get it from somewhere.

    I feel it would be more relevant, realistic, and admirable to instead try to get your university to divert less funds into the sports programs, and more into academia.

    Chris

    1. Re:not that I like it... by chota · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, that's not quite right...

      At most Universities (at least in the US), the bookstore, dining services, and (in most places) the housing department and sports teams are what's known as Auxilliary Services. They receive no money from the University, and must make their own profit. The only thing they receive is the right to associate themselves with the name of the institution.

      At least here at UWM(.edu), these Auxilliary services don't even get to use the official University logo! They had to create their own.

      If you want to talk more about realigning funds back into academia, look no farther than your Student Government Association. In most states, they have the right (responsibility?) to review exactly WHERE their represented students' money is going and have the power to stop it. This is especially true with fees like rec center usage, campus organizations funding, student health center, etc.

    2. Re:not that I like it... by Natalie's+Hot+Grits · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Have you ever thought that maybe women aren't going the route of academia?

      Just a thought, but it is something to think about

      (no, i'm not racist, and yes, i support aa)

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    3. Re:not that I like it... by stanwirth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Have you ever thought that maybe women aren't going the route of academia?

      Yah, and all the reasons why--sexual harassment, the well-documented "chilly climate", a tenure clock that makes it easy for men with a stay-at-home wife to have children, but not female faculty, prejudices of women's ability to do science based on statistically insignificant differences in standardised tests that produce equal performance when womens' education is equal--add up to something between "unconscious" sex discrimination (was the prof putting his hand up his grad student's skirt "unconscious" -- or was he just drunk ?) and cold and deliberate sex discrimination .

      The exclusion of african americans and hispanics from the academy has more to do with the accumulation of the disadvantages of class discrimination than outright racial discrimination-- but racial discrimination goes on too. At one department at UIUC, I noticed a black face I'd never seen at departmental functions up on the faculty photo board. When I asked who he was, they said, "oh, we let him teach a few classes. We had to hire him because of Affirmative Action. His office is across campus." And then they laughed at him. Totally disgusting.

      The fact that women have outnumbered men in certain scientific fields for decades yet have hovered around the 5% mark in representation at the senior faculty level is yet further proof. I've never heard men worry about being "overqualified" by getting a PhD, for example, yet it's a common concern among female biologists. Why? Because they certainly would be overqualified with a PhD -- for the kinds of jobs that women are supposed to do. What we call "bottle-washing." Lab techs. Rather than PI on research grants.

      One woman I know wrote a proposal as a post-doc only to have her advisor give the grant money to an incoming graduate student. A year later, she was sitting on a board evaluating the same faculty member's next proposal -- a request for an extension on the original proposal she'd written. Apparently, the incoming graduate student couldn't do the job as well as the person who's idea it was -- hers. She simply sent the request for extension to the guy's most hated enemies for peer review.

  8. What query? by yerricde · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The users are too lazy to type a couple of characters into Google

    Too lazy, or too busy to take an hour experimenting with fruitless queries? Not everybody is enough of a Google master to get relevant results on the first, second, or third try. What keywords did you use in your query?

    If they had been written in an object oriented language (such as C++) instead of Perl

    Perl supports object orientation, and so do Lisp and Python.

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  9. Re:Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Of course there will be massive shipping fees to mail a text book. We're talking about something to exchange it in person with a fellow student at your school.

  10. :Price gouging on-campus bookstore-Recycling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Two things.

    First I recommend people check with their local used book store. Some of them throw away textbooks.

    Second my school would change the books used every semester to "combat" this recycling. (Oh they would never say that to your face)

  11. Have some ritalin by C10H14N2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm glad to see your college education was successful enough for you to still be completely oblivious to the fact that the vast majority of university tuition financing is through private finace -- student loans are almost always merely guaranteed by the government but not a single dime of your-hard-earned-tax-dollars are spent. The fact that it is subsidized in very limited circumstances (extreme financial need or extreme academic achievement) is quickly mooted by the fact that most college graduates pay taxes the rest of their lives as their parents and children no doubt will..

  12. Re:Forum? by fireboy1919 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, my university (Purdue) actually has one of it's own: "purdue.forsale.books" which is on the university's news server.

    There are also purdue.forsale.housing, purdue.forsale.computer, and purdue.forsale.misc.

    I use them all the time to get stuff. I built my computer off of parts I obtained from the newsgroups, actually.

    Easily searchable, fast because it runs off the schools servers (which I use to access it). I imagine there's something like that at a lot of schools, and there are just lots of students who don't know about it.

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  13. Not going to happen by Ender77 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Universities get most of there money back at sports games. That is why so much money is spent on them and less is spent on the academics.

    1. Re:Not going to happen by puck71 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Whew good thing you used scientific evidence to refute his claims. For a minute there I was afraid you were just going to mock him for only using ESPN as a source.

    2. Re:Not going to happen by Red_Winestain · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Even the NCAA admits it: "Virtually every one of the NCAA's member schools regularly loses money on athletic programs, and spending more on sports does not guarantee winning more, the NCAA said Thursday."

      Here's coverage of the NCAA report by the Miami Herald

    3. Re:Not going to happen by willtsmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ESPN would likely be FOR more athletic funding. After all, their money is selling advertisement for college and professional sporting events.

      Instead they conduct a study that indicates that most college sports LOSE money. That tells me they have a degree of integrity.

      I too have seen lots of report indicating that VERY few programs actually make money. The best money-maker is typically Men's basketball with it's low number of athletes and high attendance. For perennia power schools (Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Florida) football is a big money-maker. Everyone else loses money. A football team is like a small army to support you really have to pack them in consistently to profit.

      Most other sports have virtually nil attendance: track, wrestling, baseball, softball, fencing, crew, volleyball, lacrosse, soccer, etc...

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  14. Ever worked in a college store? by TheTurb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For everyone here who complains about college text prices, how many have actually WORKED in a a college bookstore? It's easy to accuse of price-gouging when you have no understanding of how the industry actually works. The biggest offenders are the publishers, not the stores.

    When a new textbook package comes with worthless CDs (or in one case, 3D glasses!!) advertised as "free add-ons", it achieves several things. First, by only making these worthless packages available instead of the book by itself, the publisher can basically force professors and students to buy new editions every year. Second, it can then raise the price liberally to account for the so-called "free" material. Publishers HATE used books, and go to some odd lengths to prevent used copies from being viable for very long.

    Yeah, high prices suck. I have to pay them too. However, at least I know who is really at fault when I do.

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  15. Rules for Textbook Acquisition by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    As a veteran of the textbook acquisition game, here are some rules by which any university or college student should live and die:

    1. Don't buy new books right off the bat. This should be obvious. You can get it used later on, or you might find out that the textbook for the course has changed or it's gone to a new version. Profs won't expect you to have the texts on the first day, or not even the first week when you're in first year.

    2. Don't put your trust in any heavily advertised "We'll buy your used textbooks" program. They'll pay you $15 for a $90 textbook and then sell it for $67.50.

    3. Do find out who the professor of your course is. And then compare your knowledge with the knowledge of the people who took it last year. If it's the same professor then you can probably dive into the used book market. If not, wait until you get the course outline or other official piece of information and get the actual title and volume, and then you'll know if the people with the used books have what you want.

    4. If you are trying to get your books early and can't get a course outline to find out what book will be used for a course, then try scouting the 'official' bookstores because they usually know well in advance and have everything labelled in their stock supplies on the shelves. I always go on a scouting trip in early september with a notepad and take notes on prices to make sure people selling used books aren't selling above the retail prices. (This does happen once in a while.) On this scouting trip, I usually end up explaining to some first year kid and their parents why they should put down that $500 stack of books and wait for used books.

    5. One you are sure of what books you actually do need, then make it your religion to scour those used books boards (online or not) and if you see something you want, then phone them up instantly and pick it up.

    6. When you have all your books, don't go writing in them or whatnot. You want to have them keep their value so you can sell then for $5 less in the next semester. Remember that you can sell a used book for almost exactly the same as you got it (or probably even more) but with new books, your profit ceiling is probably only 75% of the retail price since the 'official' store's supply of used books is generally priced at this level.

  16. I've got one. 'textswap.com' by Kunta+Kinte · · Score: 2, Insightful
    http://textswap.com

    You can use the site or download and install a single university version.

    I've used it in the past, and was about to reinstall and promote our site. It works well.

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