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Nano Power for Nano Devices Patented

lperdue writes "Scientists at the Univ. Oklahoma at Tulsa have come up with a microscopic battery just a thousandth of a millimetre across ... and rated at a millionth of a milliamp. It's still a lab experiment, but then so was the semiconductor at one time."

30 comments

  1. Utility? by shfted! · · Score: 2, Funny

    Lemme guess... we'll need a battery of these things to do anything useful.

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    1. Re:Utility? by AlgebraicSpore · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the better thing is that you could spread it out over a thin sheet instead of making the battery shapes of right now. Like you could cover the bottom of a laptopcase with them. That is just my two cents.

  2. On behalf of the metric system by blacklite001 · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's a micrometer and a nanoamp.

    Really, that's what prefixes are for, you can do better than that. Thanks.

    1. Re:On behalf of the metric system by Directrix1 · · Score: 1

      Thank you, that was bugging the hell out of me too.

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    2. Re:On behalf of the metric system by lperdue · · Score: 1

      yes, I know you are right and I agree. I was using the same units as the original piece from Nature ... I would guess that Nature was going for the largest possible comprehension level -- aka "dumbing it down."

      It raises issues of journalistic judgement. I assume that slashdotters will all understand micro- nano- and pico- but what happens when we get into femto- and atto-? Likewise, we know mega- giga- and tera-, but what about peta- and exa-?

      Again, you're correct but I think that Nature opted for maximum comprehension.

    3. Re:On behalf of the metric system by sketerpot · · Score: 1
      Alright, I'm sick of people not knowing the metric system. (Rant coming on...)

      I think that some basic knowledge of the metric system is just one of those things that people need to know. It isn't that hard! Atto- through exa- is a decent range to know, and for most values you will be covered. Conversion is trivial if you stick to normal units like kilo- and milli-, and don't get into units like centi- or deci-, and my TI-82 even has a mode to give scientific notation answers with convenient powers of ten, like 10^-6. How could you fail to love the metric system?

      The more you dumb it down, the dumber people will get about it. That said, though (end of rant) I don't blame you, and I'm only slightly peeved at Nature.

    4. Re:On behalf of the metric system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen worse. In one article, they were using the unit millimeter for something or other. They said something to the effect of "X millimeters, that is, a fraction of an inch."

  3. A new candy! by Josh+Booth · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about we create a new kind of candy with this stuff. It would be like Poprocks but it electrocutes you with the millions of micro-batteries it has. I wonder how toxic these batteries are.

    <quote source="The Simpsons">
    "We knew that the gum had spiders eggs in it, but the Haunta virus! Heh heh."
    --Krusty the Klown
    </quote>

    Oh, it's patented. Nevermind.

  4. Perhaps this will help kill that nasty rumor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that we're all cowboys and indians, and still live in teepees and ride horses and use covered wagons for our cargo.

    It's nice to see some recognition for the home town. As you can see, I still don't want recognition for being from there:
    posting as AC, haha!

  5. Lab experiments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's still a lab experiment, but then so was the semiconductor at one time.

    Just like that blue cheese in my refrigerator was once milk.

  6. Microscopic battery by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    Below is an attached a pic of the battery.

    .

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    1. Re:Microscopic battery by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      "Below is an attached a pic of the battery. ."

      I hate when jokes are modded as off-topic.

    2. Re:Microscopic battery by quantaman · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of the time in Junior High when I did a report on Nanotechnology for the science fair. None of the judges seemed to get it when I told them I had a scale model!

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  7. maybe two are needed by annisette · · Score: 1

    I hope these things are stackable

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  8. Admins, please read the article by Sir+Holo · · Score: 5, Informative
    It's not a microscopic battery. From the article:

    ...For this reason, some researchers feel that it is premature to describe the set- up as a battery.


    Also, the title is misleading. "Nano Power for Nano Devices Patented" sounds like the idea of having any power for nano devices has been patented. It's not that. The researchers have simply come up with a method to produce a structure that could be used for the purpose. There are undoubtedly numerous other ways of achieving this same goal. They're just one of the first reporting one to the mainstream press.

    1. Re:Admins, please read the article by jo42 · · Score: 2, Insightful


      ...and what are they going to do with all the heat that nano devices will generate?

  9. Re:Not so fast. by MidnightBrewer · · Score: 1

    You've obviously never talked to anyone outside of the state. I worked for Creative Labs tech support in Stillwater for a year and heard it all. The first post was very accurate.

    Liking Oklahoma City and Tulsa at the same time is impossible, especially if you live in Oklahoma.

    Ironically, the two previous posts accurately reflect the respective attitudes of Tulsans and Oklahoma City natives.

    I lived in Oklahoma for the last ten years, and now live in Japan. Change is good.

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  10. Battery size.. by adeyadey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is it an AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA battery then?

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    1. Re:Battery size.. by erinacht · · Score: 1

      Not it's an AWWWWWWWWWWW battery

      As in Awwwww, what a cute ikkle battery
      ;-)

  11. Obviously? by BoomerSooner · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Obviously you only speak to fucking morons, if they think people ride horses to work and live in teepees.

    Tulsa is a piss poor laid out city. 99% of shopping is off 71st and Memorial (congestion is worse than at Sam Moon in Dallas).

    My father is from New Jersey and my mother is from Mississippi. Surprisingly enough they didn't think that people lived in teepees in the 1960's so anyone that still actually believes anything like that is rather slow. Granted spending summers in NJ/NYC there were people who would give you a hard time about riding a horse to school, however these are just people trying to mess with you, they didn't actually believe it.

    There are several things I like about Tulsa. They have a better art scene, it's a prettier town (more hills, trees, ...) and they have one of my top 5 national restaurants (Atlantic Sea Grill).

    Creative Labs is a joke. I have worked with several people that had that as their first job out of college and they say it was a horrible place to work. If you think people hate Tulsa, Stillwater is a shithole like no other.

    1. Re:Obviously? by RobertB-DC · · Score: 1

      Man, this is so far off-topic now, but I'm originally from Tulsa, so I'll throw in my 2c.

      Tulsa is a piss poor laid out city. 99% of shopping is off 71st and Memorial (congestion is worse than at Sam Moon in Dallas).

      What a sad situation! My family moved to Tulsa (Owasso, actually) in the late '70s, just before Woodland Hills Mall came in at the aforementioned corner. Up until I left (mid-80s), the city's layout was nearly ideal... the entire city is laid out on a 1-mile grid, so you can get anywhere from anywhere else without getting lost.

      But as I was leaving, the new mall at 31st and way-past-Mingo was going in, and from your posting, it sounds like things have only gotten worse from there. The one-mile grid was perfect when all your needs could be met within two miles (I lived a mile from Utica Square). Now that mall culture has hit, the same urban sprawl that has choked Dallas appears to have afflicted Tulsa. Pretty sad.

      Speaking of Dallas (where I live [outside of] now), what the Sam Hill is "Sam Moon"?

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    2. Re:Obviously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF??

  12. translation=pay us for the obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another example of how the patent system is used to prevent progress for the purpose of getting $.

    Any nano engineer will now have to pay these guy to have their nano-bot work.

  13. One minor correction by GeoGreg · · Score: 1

    This invention was created at the University of Tulsa, a private institution. There is a University of Oklahoma at Tulsa, but that's a different entity, part of the state university system.

    The situation is much the same in my current hometown, where we have a University of Denver (private) and a University of Colorado-Denver (public).

  14. Re: On behalf of the metric system AND spelling by Feynt · · Score: 1

    I can just picture a micrometer now; you know, a tiny measuring device (i.e., a meter) a millionth the size of a normal one. Why, it would be so tiny that you would need to measure it in micrometres (i.e., tiny units of length, each a millions the size of a metre)!

  15. Ouch! by iCat · · Score: 1

    Assuming a sheet 1 battery deep, coating the base of my Powerbook would allow for:

    depth: 245mm x 1000 batteries/mm = 245 000 batteries

    width: 305mm x 1000 batteries/mm = 305 000 batteries

    Giving a grand total of 8.6x10^10 batteries That's a current of: 8.6x10^7 Amps, which is quite scary!

  16. Quick math check shows interesting result by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Er...

    245,000 batteries deep by 305,000 batteries wide gives 74,725,000,000 batteries. If each battery runs at a millionth of a milliamp (ie, one nanoamp), that comes out to 0.74725 amps.

    But hey, that's around three-quarters of an amp *per battery layer*. Now stack those babies.