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SCO Invoices For Unix Licenses Get Closer

beggs writes "BusinessWeek, InfoWorld and the EE Times Online all have stories about SCO's plans to send out license invoices to Linux vendors for 'Unix license fees for Linux.' The experts advice: Wait and see what happens with the court cases before you pay." RowLowy points to ZDnet's story, which says that "SCO will pursue commercial Linux users who have discussed their Linux work publicly ... However, it won't take action until it's done more research on those businesses." JayR writes to say that Michael Dell recently told a gathering of Dell investors that Dell Computer will offer no protection from SCO lawsuits to customers who buy Linux-based systems from Dell. Keep score: an anonymous reader points out that SCO executives are still selling off their stock. Total proceeds in August of over $600,000. Senior Vice President Reginald Broughton tops the list with over $300,000."

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  1. Re:Yes!!! by paradxum · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm just waiting for mister SEC to intervene.... It's looking like just a matter of time.

  2. Re:End in sight ? by oolon · · Score: 4, Informative

    The VP Jeff F Hunsaker has sold 60% of his holding in the last 2 months!

    James

  3. Some advice from the Better Business Bearu. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    Some advice from the Better Business Bearau


    PHONY INVOICE SCAMS

    The anatomy of a typical phony invoice scheme is as follows:


    The Call:

    While there is no set formula for these invoice schemes, most involve the use of an initial telephone contact. The call helps the swindler obtain the names of key business contacts, as well as some important details about the operation of the business and its products or services. The persons making these calls are, for the most part, remarkably smooth operators. Often brazen and forward in their approach, they have been known to talk their way through a chain of receptionists, secretaries, assistant managers, supervisors, and vice presidents to gain access to heads of companies. In most cases, however, they need gain access to only lower-level employees.


    The Invoice:

    The con artist's next contact with the intended victim usually comes in the form of a phony invoice sent through the mail. The invoice, which includes names, figures, and other details that add to the appearance of legitimacy, may be paid unwittingly along with a number of other routine bills. In many cases, the amount of the invoice is just small enough to slip by the check writer's attention. The swindler has had considerable experience calculating the most effective dollar amount, depending on variables such as the size of the firm, and the control it seems to have over its management system. Thousands of mass-mailed invoices, each for a small sum, may prove more luc-rative for the con artist, than several large invoices.


    The Scare Tactic:

    Scare tactics sometimes are used to increase the odds of success. A phony invoice, or past-due notice, stamped "Pay This Bill Now" or "We Are About to Start Action" may intimidate the victim into rushing to make out a check without carefully investigating the supposedly delinquent charge.


    SOLICITATIONS AS INVOICES

    One of the most common variations of the phony invoice scheme are solicitations disguised as invoices. These documents, which are actually solicitations for the purchase of goods or services, are carefully designed to look like legitimate invoices for goods or services ordered and received. In some cases, the small print may identify the bogus bill as a solicitation. The deceptive solicitation may be received through the mail, or it may be presented in person by a con artist who visits a business office on the pretext of saving the company handling charges.


    The business that pays a solicitation disguised as an invoice may receive the merchandise or service it was duped into ordering; more often, it will not, and efforts to trace the fraudulent firm that issued the "invoice" will prove futile.

  4. USPS and FTC by red+floyd · · Score: 5, Informative

    If they're sending via USMail, and you live in the US and receive one, send a copy to the USPS Postal Inspector. That's mail fraud, and the USPS takes a dim view of such things.

    I suspect the FTC wouldn't particularly like it either... Your state's Attorney General might be interested in the extortion issue, too.

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  5. New Development: IBM subpoena by Tsu+Dho+Nimh · · Score: 3, Informative
    IBM Subpoenas Canopy and Yarro
    Filed: 08/28/03
    Entered: 08/29/03
    Return of service executed
    Docket Text: Return of service executed re: Subpoena served on Canopy Group c/o Ralph Yanno on 8/26/03

    If they can prove that SCO was not an independent corporation, it's all over for Big Brother and his holding company. This is not discovery - that would have been against SCO.

  6. 7 more months of this fun? by dafz1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looking through the history of 2:03cv00294/ SCO Grp v Intl Bus Mach Inc, I found the schedule for when things are going to happen.

    10/1: Amending of Pleadings
    10/22: Discovery Cutoff
    11/10: Deadline for Filing motions
    3/11/05: Attorney Conference
    3/28/05: Final Pretrial Conference for 2:30
    4/11/05: 5 Week Jury Trial

    By the 22nd of next month, SCO will have to release to IBM the offending code as part of the discovery phase. The question is how fast it will be leaked.

    And we get to watch this whole specatacle until May!

    1. Re:7 more months of this fun? by idiotnot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Erm, check your calendar there. Discovery cuttoff is 10/22/04, and the trial is 4/11/05. So, that's more like ninteen months.

      And no, I won't be paying any SCO invoices in the meantime.

  7. It's mail fraud and illegal by tarranp · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you get one of these letters, I suggest you go to this link:

    https://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/Mail Fr audComplaint.htm

    Essentially, sending a fraudulant invoice through the US mails is a crime:

    "Extortion (18 USC 873, 876 & 877)
    Postal Inspectors investigate extortion and blackmail when demands for ransoms or rewards are sent through the U.S. Mail. Inspectors also strictly enforce laws prohibiting mail that contains threats of kidnapping, physical injury, or injury to the property or reputations of others

    Mail Fraud (18 USC 1341, 1342 & 1345; 39 USC 3005 & 3007)
    The Postal Inspection Service is committed to protecting postal customers from misuse of the mail. Inspectors place special emphasis on mail fraud scams related to advance fees, boiler rooms, health care, insurance, investments, deceptive mailings and other consumer frauds, especially when they target the elderly or other susceptible groups."

    The guys who investigate it are U.S. Postal Inspectors, who have very draconian powers, and have very wide-ranging jurisdiction.

  8. Maybe not cretins by h00pla · · Score: 5, Informative
    The Groklaw weblog talks about some of the venture capital people buying up stock and just who is behind the buyers. Quite telling, methinks.

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  9. Actually, no by Royster · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's a big loophole in the insider trading laws and the SCO execs are taking advantage of it. There is a safe harbor if you have a plan to sell shares at predetermined points in time over a long enough period. The SCO execs have such a plan filed back in January at the same time that the lawsuit grumblings began to be heard.

    Look for another press release to boost the stock price next Monday, September 8, when some of the top execs will be selling again.

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  10. Re:Extortion? -- YES by screenrc · · Score: 4, Informative

    Extortion is when you use fear to extract money
    from people you have no prior business relationship,
    and without giving reasons why they legaly have
    to pay you. I am sorry, "pay so I don't report
    you to the authorities", or "pay so I don't
    sue you" is illegal. It is simple extortion,
    as plain as it can possibly be.

  11. Visit Groklaw by bstadil · · Score: 3, Informative
    This comes from Groklaw that has a lot of interesting comments. Name is Yarro by the way.

    Interesting comment from JF

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    Unless you are using the DMCA to get rubber-stamped subpoenas like the RIAA, a subpoena means you showed a judge enough evidence to convince them that you are probably right on a point related to the case.

    The fact that IBM got a subpoena indicates that laid some pretty damning evidence in front of a judge. Any indication of which jurisdiction issued the subpoena?

    If it was the courts there in Utah, that at least SQUARES the power of the evidence in my opinion given that SCO/Canopy has the hometown advantage. J.F. 9/3/03; 11:07:56 AM

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  12. Time for another fine in Germany by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 3, Informative

    Stowell added: "Sooner or later the invoicing will reach European companies I'm sure. We will not be limiting this to a US only market."

    This warning seems to be a clear breach of the German injunction.

    For that matter, so is the material on SCO's main web page here, which makes the unproven allegation "customers unknowingly received illegal copies of SCO property", among other things. I can't think of any reason why the injunction would be limited to material on the German-language page, which is, after all, also served from the U.S.

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