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Crippled CD Deemed Defective In France

Noryungi writes "The daily newspaper Liberation reports that at least one person got her money back, by suing EMI, no less. She was able to do that with the help of the largest consumer organization in France, which has its own list of articles on this subject. So, French people who cannot read their copy-protected CDs can get their money back, but copy protection is not made illegal by the court decision... It's certainly a step in the right direction, though..." For the French-impaired, an anonymous reader adds "The Register has a good article on EMI being forced to refund the cost of a copy-protected CD, because it was found to have a 'hidden defect' -- it wouldn't work on a car's CD player ... Is the tide changing?"

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  1. Clear Labeling of CDs.. by FileNotFound · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is an Act that if passed will require clear lables on all copy protected CDs. From EFF:

    Senator Ron Wyden recently introduced the Digital Consumer Right-to-Know Act (DCRKA), a bill that would require entertainment companies to label products with copy-protections that limit consumer use. Support the DCRKA if you think the content industry should be ordered to clearly label media that restricts your rights!

    http://action.eff.org/action/index.asp?step=2&it em =2664

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    1. Re:Clear Labeling of CDs.. by samsmithnz · · Score: 4, Informative

      This act is hardly going to help though. If you buy a CD that is labeled, and then it doesn't work, you're not going to be able to return it, because you were warned before you purchased!!!

    2. Re:Clear Labeling of CDs.. by jsfetzik · · Score: 5, Informative

      Check out the list at Fat Chuck's

  2. EMI response by MCS · · Score: 5, Informative

    I actually e-mailed EMI about the copy protection on the new Jane's addiction CD. Here is the reply I have recieved:

    "We are in receipt of your email and regret you have experienced a problem with one of our products.

    The technology we are using is designed to ensure that the disc plays on multiple devices. There have been playability problems with a very small number of players, but the vast majority of these problems have been fixable by our technology suppliers as they are constantly updating and improving the technology that is included in the copy controlled discs.

    As long as consumers alert us to the problem we will endeavor to adapt the copy control technology.

    Please forward your address as we search for a replacement from another territory. Thank you.

    Regards,

    Emi Music Canada
    Quality Control Dept
    1 (866) 553-0220"

    1. Re:EMI response by mopslik · · Score: 4, Informative

      You're luckier than I was. I contacted EMI Canada about several of their defective discs, only to receive several suggestions to upgrade my CD players and/or operating system. Sorry, no sale there.

  3. Re:I'm surprised and didn't read the article by Pius+II. · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Achete par une consommatrice, Francoise Marc, dans un hypermarche Auchan, le CD d'Alain Souchon etait illisible sur l'autoradio de sa Clio."

    A PC with an X through it doesn't really help to show that the CD doesn't play in your car. If that isn't enough, most DVD players don't play these, either. This policy is starting to really piss consumers off. As far as I know, most retailers around here (Germany, that is) just take all the CDs back, if you give them "it doesn't play on my DVD/car stereo/discman" as the reason.

  4. Moot by doctechniqal · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you believe
    the study referenced in this article, then the whole issue of copy protecting audio CDs is pretty much dead in the water anyway.

  5. Think of the future by OMG · · Score: 4, Informative

    The copy protected CD you buy today may run on your current CD player. But what about your next CD player? How much percent of your CD collection will not run on the new player?

    heise.de has setup a register for copy protected CDs and on which drives/players they are playable. The results so far show, that the copy protection is not PC drive specific. Some CD players do play some copy protected CDs, some players don't. The same goes for CD-ROM drives. Depends on the copy protection system also. Thus you can't tell which copy protection system will stop your next CD player from playing the CD.

    Thus the record companies are FORCING music fans to make a digital copy (which is a crime in Germany now if you have to circumvent a copy protection mechansim).

  6. this isn't the first time by bodrell · · Score: 5, Informative
    I knew this article seemed familiar . . . At the end of June, there was another article about a consumer in Brazil who sued for the same reason. And won. In contrast to this French case, the guy won about $340. Whether that is in addition to legal fees, I don't know. The original Brazilian article referenced is here.

    Interestingly, the Brazilian CD which was defective (Tribalistas, featuring Marisa Monte, Arnaldo Antunes, and Carlinhos Brown) was not copy-protected in the US (I was worried after reading this article, but I bought a copy and had no problems reading it on my Mac).

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