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Microsoft to Build High School in Philadelphia, PA

LynchMan writes "According to the The Philadelphia Inquirer, Philadelphia is too be the home of a Microsoft funded High School. While having an inner city public school with a large tech fund ($46 Million) will be a great asset to those young students interested in technology, is the Philadelphia School District selling out to Microsoft really the only way to achieve this? Especially with all of the negative press that Microsoft has had recently, is this an attempt to do some good and help out those who cannot afford private school? Or is Microsoft just making sure that they secure themselves another generation of coders/admins/users? This being the first school of it's kind, will a Microsoft high school be coming to a town near you?" This looks very much like the Microsoft buses that toured from school to school a couple years back, but much larger and much more stationary.

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  1. Blinded By Hate by Ken@WearableTech · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How could anyone have any question about this being a good thing? Microsoft is not building the school nor is it paying for the school to be built. The local school board is building it and MS is contributing technology and services to the school to see what happens to education when the school is afforded every technological luxury possible. This is an experiment! If afterwards the students bought MS products for themselves, so what, they are likely to anyway. If some of the students went on to be programmers and favored the Windows OS and Visual Studio, so what, it is already likely. Coke and Pepsi already give money to schools to put in only their product. Aside from the questions of health, do we cry out the these children's minds have been warped in the decision of who to favor in the cola wars? No.

    If it was not for Microsoft this school would still be built, it just wouldn't have the technology.

    I have the suspicion that those who object to this would think it would be the coolest thing if RedHat decided to help a school become a pure Linux organization, with a Zarus PDA for every child.

    1. Re:Blinded By Hate by millwall · · Score: 5, Informative

      "How could anyone have any question about this being a good thing?" [..cut..] MS is contributing technology and services to the school."

      I would say the article makes it look like Microsof is paying for the school, but it only gives project management, training and support. Which probably only will relate to Microsoft technology.

      In what way is this such a beutifully good thing?

      From the article: "Microsoft's contribution will not be monetary, but services worth millions of dollars, including a full-time on-site project manager, planning and design expertise, staff training and ongoing technology support. It plans to bring in other technology partners.
    2. Re:Blinded By Hate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Slashdot Double Standard #1431:
      When Apple did this, it was praised and lauded as good move to provide computers, and help kids, and maybe also build potential customers.

      When Microsoft does this, it's pure evil, the administrators have been duped, sold out, stupid. Suspicions of some nefarious larger purpose are raised immediately.

    3. Re:Blinded By Hate by mj01nir · · Score: 5, Informative

      I work with one of those inner city schools, let me tell you that there are many other ways available to fund technology. The IT manager there applies for and pursues every fund, grant, gift, and loan for technology. He gets many of them. The kids in his district have access to:

      Computers in nearly every classroom from elementry to high school. (Nice ones, trust me).
      OC-3 Internet access.
      Internet 2 access (T3 IIRC).
      Lots of tech training for the district's teachers.
      Library automation.

      Basically, just about everything that a school would need and then some. His kids are well taken care of.

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  2. A Win Win by OfficerNoGun · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm sure Microsoft gets something out of this, like tax breaks, free beta testing etc, but that really isn't the point. Philadelphia schools are about the most missmanaged, poor schools in the country, They're constantly low on funds despite paying about half as much per student as the surrounding suburbian schools. The technology situatuation is usually a computer for every few classes, and its 5 years old. This is most likely to become one of the better if not best schools in the district. But if some of this 46million doesnt go to support and training of the students and teachers, its gonna be money that was wasted.

  3. Inner City by SilentReproach · · Score: 5, Insightful
    IMO, forget the technology. Anyone who has seen the kind of life students have in the inner city can appreciate that a top notch new facility is a blessing, Microsoft or not.

    Now, if they were plunking a school in a suburb that was doing just fine without them, I'd question their motives. But, in this case, I'd have to think this is at best, altruism on Microsoft's part, or at worst, advertising money well spent.

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  4. Re:Corporate Sponsorship in Schools by Radon+Knight · · Score: 5, Informative

    > Sent home after drinking a Coke? You must be kidding
    > me...

    I remember something about this. A quick Google turned up the following blurb. I don't know that this is true (a little more digging should confirm/reject it):

    Greenbrier High School in Evans, Georgia had sponsored a "Coke in Education Day" in order to win $500 from the Coca-Cola company. One kid (Michael Cameron) wore a Pepsi shirt to school to protest and was suspended.

    So, the report, albeit incorrect, was not *that* far off the mark. And the above story of Greenbrier High School, if true, is very worrisome.

  5. Re:It smells... by mike_mgo · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the article:

    It will be one of 11 new high schools to be funded by the district's five-year $1.5 billion capital plan.

    Microsoft's contribution will not be monetary, but services worth millions of dollars, including a full-time on-site project manager, planning and design expertise, staff training and ongoing technology support.

    The company's reward is the opportunity to design a school using technology in every way possible from the ground up - a prototype it could then market.

    "Microsoft came here because we asked, simple as that," Vallas said.

    For those who might criticize such a corporate presence in a public school, district officials emphasized that Microsoft will not manage the school.

    It seems to me, based on the article, that MS is not funding the building of the school other than providing the technology and then continuning to provide support and advice for the school. Sure, Microsoft is getting something out of the deal but I don't remember reading where a good or charitable deed had to be completely selfless. Yes they may get tax breaks, a foot in the door to other districts and have a customer for future products at this school. But so what, they are providing a substatial benefit to the students at this school.

  6. Re:Little billy did something bad by digitalunity · · Score: 5, Informative

    God damn. This is one big trollfest. According to the Associated Press article that was in my newspaper, this wasn't done by Microsoft. It was done by the Gates Foundation, a non-profit fund run by Bill G. and his wife. They give out millions every year in educational grants. This is actually a good deed, probably the best thing Bill has ever done.

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  7. How is it bad to have access to technology? by SlashDotForever · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What happens to the kids that won't get access just because someone makes some sort of arbitray ethical decision? The world is full of huge contradictions and paradoxes. If this gives these kids the chance to use computers and be comfortable with technology, why don't we trust the rest of the school system to teach them to think and make their own choices as they grow. The experience is more important then the who or what.