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Should ISPs Be The Little Man's Firewall?

Anonymous Coward writes "In a paper published today, the point is made that ISPs should filter some ports (e.g. 135) for good. I guess given what everyone sees hitting their various firewalls these days, this may make sense. But wasn't the Internet supposed to be 'open' at one point? Or are we to the point where Internet=Web (and maybe AIM). The author of the paper is operating DShield and I guess has some insight into this issue. He made the same points before on various mailing lists."

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  1. Power users should be able to opt-out by Plix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While I agree with the point I think that power users should be allowed to call up the ISP (maybe even at initial sign-up) and be allowed to request that the ports remain unblocked. Otherwise, the internet *will* become just the web and AIM for everyone if they like it or not.

  2. Absolutely by nickd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is another case of where techies do not think about things from the customers point of view. Of course most slashdotters will want their ports open - the customers on the other hand dont know what a firewall is, what the implications of their ports are etc - quite frankly they shouldnt need to.

    Filter by default - if you need your ports or you want to do your own firewalling then get the "advanced user" account that costs less but requires more responsibility from the user.

    If anything this is just an opportunity for ISP's to make another value added service to sell.

  3. Wow. Moderation works! by Bodrius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had opened the article specifically to make this same comment.

    Just like self-administered hosting services have successfully provided "servers for the little man" through virtual hosts and web configuration interfaces, ISPs could provide security for the average joe.

    Integrate the UI well with your webmail (spam-filtering, etc) and other services, and your ISP portal can actually be more useful than as a bandwidth test.

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  4. Block All Incoming Connections by FsG · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why not take this a step further by blocking anything that the user did not request in a NAT-like fashion? Broadband router users have been enjoying the security that this provides for ages, and I see no reason why everyone else shouldn't, too.

    Security-wise, this would block many worms (both present and future) because they would simply be unable to connect to any system. Besides that, it would also block backdoor trojans like NetBus and BackOrfice because, although they'd still be listening, no one would be able to connect to them and control the user's system.

    To address the NAT-type problems that this would create, ISPs could automatically make certain exceptions for port blocks that interfere with popular games and whatnot. For advanced users, there would be a control panel (much like those built into NAT firewalls) where they could unblock any or all of the ports.

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  5. A NZ telco provides self managed virtual firewalls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Telecom New Zealand currently offers its business customers a service that allows the customer to configure their own VFW (Virtual FireWall). Changes made to the config of the customers VFW via a https web server are immediately sent to the firewall (inside the Telecom network). While the customer does not have the ability to change the outgoing NAT address of the VFW most other options one would expect from a firewall sitting in the office are available such as; selecting Src/Dst IP, Protocol, Src/Dst ports etc. Incoming services such as customer managed web servers etc. can be set up by the customer though this does require you to pay for an "extra" Public IP address. The firewall follows state and is designed to support large numbers of unique customer networks with overlapping private address space. All in all its a very sexy thing. Sadly there isn't much technical detail on how the system works but the sales blurb makes for interesting reading. http://www.telecom.co.nz/securebusinessinternet/