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ESR to Shred SCO Claims?

webmaven writes "According to this article in eWEEK, ESR has released a utility called comparator for analyzing the similarity of source code trees. The technical details are interesting, in that ESR says he is using an implementation of a refined version of the 'shred' algorithm, with higher performance (on machines with enough RAM) than other versions. ESR won't say whether he intends the comparator to be used to compare older Unix code to Linux so as to be able to refute SCO's claims, but it's obviously well suited for such a purpose. Interestingly, as the shred algorithm can run reports on source trees using only the MD5 signature shreds (once generated), it is possible to use it to compare trees without direct access to the source code itself, leading to a possible use in comparing various proprietary source trees with each other and with Freely available code bases such as Linux and *BSD without requiring actual disclosure of the proprietary source code (a neutral third party could generate the shreds on a company's premises, and leave without taking a copy of the source with them). I'll be interested to see if (or which of) the proprietary vendors allow their source trees to be 'shredded' for such comparisons, and whether this becomes a standard forensic technique in source-code copyright and trade-secret disputes."

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  1. SCO may not know origin of code by Malfourmed · · Score: 5, Informative
    The Sydney Morning Herald continues its mainstream coverage of the SCO vs IBM roadshow by posting an article where Dr Warren Toomey, a Unix historian, says that SCO may not know the origin of their own code.

    Article text follows:

    SCO may not know origin of code, says Australian UNIX historian

    By Sam Varghese
    September 9, 2003

    More doubts have been cast on the heritage of System V Unix code, which the SCO Group claims as its own, by an Australian who runs the Unix Heritage Society.

    Dr Warren Toomey, now a computer science lecturer at Bond University, said today: "I'd like to point out that SCO (the present SCO Group) probably doesn't have an idea where they got much of their code. The fact that I had to send SCO (the Santa Cruz Organisation or the old SCO) everything up to and including Sys III says an awful lot."

    He said that even though SCO owned the copyright on Sys III, a few years ago it did not have a copy of the source code. "I was dealing with one of their people at the time, trying to get some code released under a reasonable licence. I sent them the code as a gesture because I knew they did not have a copy," he said with a chuckle.

    Dr Toomey's statements come a few days after Greg Rose, an Australian Unix hacker from the 1970s, raised the possibility that there may be code contributed by people, including himself, which has made its way into System V Unix and is thus being used by companies like the SCO Group.

    Dr Toomey said this was one reason why the code samples which the SCO Group had shown at its annual forum had turned out to be widely published code.

    SCO was unaware of the origins of much of the code and this "explains how they could wheel out the old malloc() code and the BPF (Berkeley Packet Filter) code, not realising that both were now under BSD licences - and in fact they hadn't even written the BPF code," Dr Toomey said.

    He said that there was lots of code which had been developed at the University of New South Wales in the 70s which went to AT&T and was incorporated into UNIX without any copyright notices.

    "At that time the development that was going on was similar to open source - the only difference was that the developers all had to have copies of the code licensed from AT&T," he said.

    Dr Toomey, who served 12 years with the Australian Defence Force Academy, an offshoot of the University of New South Wales, before joining Bond University, said he had source code for Unices from the 3rd version of UNIX which came out in 1974 to the present day. "I don't have Sys V code but there are people with licences for that code who are members of the Unix Heritage Society. We can compare code samples any time," he said.

    He agreed that the codebase of Sys V was a terribly tangled mess. "It is very difficult to trace origins now. There is an awful lot of non-AT&T and non-SCO code in Sys V. There is a lot of BSD code there," he said.

    In March, the SCO Group filed a billion-dollar lawsuit against IBM, for "misappropriation of trade secrets, tortious interference, unfair competition and breach of contract."

    SCO also claimed that Linux was an unauthorised derivative of Unix and warned commercial Linux users that they could be legally liable for violation of intellectual copyright. SCO later expanded its claims against IBM to US$3 billion in June when it said it was withdrawing IBM's licence for its own Unix, AIX.

    IBM has counter-sued SCO while Red Hat Linux has sued SCO to stop it from making "unsubstantiated and untrue public statements attacking Red Hat Linux and the integrity of the Open Source software development process."

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  2. Re:Can Someone Explain? by Sterling+Christensen · · Score: 5, Informative

    From it's manual:
    "The -w causes all whitespace in the file (including blank lines) to be ignored for comparison purposes (line numbers in the output report will nevertheless be correct). This is recommended for comparing C code; among other things it means the comparison won't be fooled by differences in indent style."

  3. This is actually a darn good idea by RocketRick · · Score: 5, Informative

    By computing MD5 hashes of consecutive (overlapping) line triplets, the shred algorithm makes it easy to identify copied code, without ever seeing the actual code. This might be a perfect way for companies to allow a third party to compare code, without giving away any trade secrets in the process.

    Of course, since MD5 is a very good cryptographic hash function, *any* one-bit change in the source will result in, on average, half of the bits in the result being flipped. So, this method of identifying copied code would only work if the code had never been run through an obfuscator. It would also be defeatable by running the source through a script to have its variable names search-and-replaced with similar names (such as replacing every variable name with a new name consisting of the old name plus "_newname")....

    In short, this might be a useful technique for allowing a third party to look for trivial wholesale copying of code, but it would be useless for finding a motivated miscreant, determined to steal code without being caught.