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Victor G. Sommers writes "Daniel Soong, who lost his programming job to Indian offshore companies, is willing to relocate to India. 'It would be really interesting to work in Bangalore,' he says. 'But I was told, "Daniel, it is against the law for you to work here. You can come here on vacation, but you can't work here."' Indian officials have told him they don't hire Americans." An article in ComputerWorld talks about the possibility of getting more than you bargained for in outsourced code.

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  1. Outsource or Insource? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    As the dot.com economy turns sluggish, pragmatic businesses have begun to appreciate the advantages of the Internet as a means to improve internal operations and create more effective sales channels. Business fundamentals are back in vogue. Profitability is once again important. While a simple, yet slick, Web presence is now the minimum requirement for any viable Internet-based business, practical organizations realize that they must forge beyond Web page glitz, toward tight supply and delivery chains and efficient business-to-business (B-to-B) or business-to-consumer (B-to-C) operations. The successful execution of networking operations becomes more critical to the lifeblood of the business itself. Now, along with customer satisfaction, productivity depends on the Internet infrastructure and its ability to perform flawlessly. Meanwhile, enabling technologies are evolving faster than they can be consumed. Over the course of just a few years, data transfer rates have exploded: 10 MB LAN (local area network) speeds were replaced by 100 MB speeds, which were even more quickly replaced by 1 GB LAN speeds. Similarly, backbone transfer rates have skyrocketed from OC-3 to OC-12 to OC-48 to OC-192. Routers, switches, and servers are becoming faster, and more quickly, than ever before. New product life-cycles have shortened to weeks instead of months. The economics of today's technology market places pragmatic businesses in a quandary: bear the continual costs of upgrading network resources to improve reliability and availability, or place at risk those critical business factors -- customer satisfaction and operational efficiency -- that have created a successful business. From these Internet age dynamics we must understand the importance of carefully managing upside potential and downside risks collectively. The chosen infrastructure that will support a pragmatic business' Internet strategy must be capable of managing wild success and ultimate failure. Amidst this roller coaster environment, outsourced hosting services offer resolution to the outsourcing dilemma -- an answer that pragmatic businesses have found to be a win-win solution. Outsourcing hosting services enables the user to leverage the established infrastructure of third-party providers to obtain consisent, leading-edge solutions at a predictable monthly expense. This Aberdeen Executive White Paper offers an understanding of how outsourced hosting services help pragmatic e-Businesses navigate a fast-paced market.

  2. oh rikku by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    where art thou my love

  3. WILDCAT HAS CAPTUARED TEH FLAG~!!`1 BLUE TEAM SCOR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  4. Stamp-over advertising? by Mr.+Darl+McBride · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    Am I the only one who had to copy and paste the text from the second linked page into a word processor to view the story?

    In Mozilla, I got a Sprint ad in a huge box which overlaid the story text, making it impossible to read. I tried hovering over and such to see if it had a 'click to hide' option, but nothing. I'm not clicking the ad itself.

    Is this some new advertising tactic to force people to visit ad sites to view the article, or is this just a page design problem?

    1. Re:Stamp-over advertising? by slaker · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Moz is the browser that is most compliant with actual web standards.
      Probably some dumbass webmonkey didn't bother to check his page in anything but IE6 for Windows, and therefore didn't realize the problem.

      OTOH, it looked fine to me, and I'm using Moz 1.4 with most of the image and javascipt-blocking options turned on.

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      -- I wanna decide who lives and who dies - Crow T. Robot, MST3K
    2. Re:Stamp-over advertising? by fenix+down · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      If it doesn't take Mozilla into account, that's a design issue.

    3. Re:Stamp-over advertising? by mark_lybarger · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      i'd say it's a requirements issue. if the requirements allow for a site to be IE6.0 only, and the dev team uses windows with IE, you're going to get an IE only site.

  5. "Shock And Awe" bombing phase begins!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The law will never make men free; it is men who have got to make the law free. -- Henry David Thoreau

  6. I'm going into medical field. by Thinkit3 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'm mainly sick of the copyrights and patents. I'd rather just deal with patients one on one than patent or copyright stuff all day (which I think is immoral). If the copyright and patent jobs go to India, that's fine--let them be immoral.

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    -Libertarian secular transhumanist
  7. Thank you, come again by MoxCamel · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The world's first convenience store is at the top of a mountain in India. He may ask the wise cashier three questions, one of which could be to ask for his job back.

    But only if he works for Kwiki-Mart. D'oh!

    (+1 ObSimpsons)

  8. Re:Duh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    i called HP to have warrenty work done on my printer. I got someone in India that couldn't speak english well, in fact at all. After a bout 5 mins. i hung up the phone and just went and bought another printer.

  9. Are there any mods older than about 14 here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It's called irony (ok, maybe mild sarcasm).

    What it is not, is flamebait!

    God! I wish most of the mods around here were properly socialized and understood the nuances of humor and human social interaction in general.

  10. Meeeeeh by dosius · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    IE is the buggy browser, not Moz. If something works in IE and not in Moz that's because people are writing faulty code.

    My web designer uses IE exclusively. Well, one of my pages that he laid out for me broke in Moz Firebird, because the column widths were even so slightly different... There's standards, folks, use them! I would have preferred to use <NOBR myself.

    -uso.

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    What you hear in the ear, preach from the rooftop Matthew 10.27b
  11. Re:hidden malware story by BobGregg · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I went through graduate school in Carnegie Mellon's Software Engineering program, and took lectures at the SEI, where Watts Humphrey was and still is. But I didn't realize that they were doing presentations to Microsoft. Back in the day (6-7 years back), Microsoft seemed quite uninterested.

    To see this tied in to the Trustworthy Computing initiative, though, is pretty jarring. Seems like the "trustworthy" then applies more to the developers than to the software. Not exactly where I'd expect their primary focus to belong!

  12. please mod parent up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    insightful.

  13. Re:What is that?!? by DirkDaring · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It's a peep hole. Get real REAL close to your monitor and stare inside it!

  14. Business 2.0 Magazine - The Coming Job Boom by $exyNerdie · · Score: 0, Offtopic


    I read this in the September 2003 Issue of Business 2.0 Magazine :

    Forget those grim unemployment numbers. Demographic forces are about to put a squeeze on the labor supply that will make it feel like 1999 all over again. - The Coming Job Boom