Helping the Apple Web Community w/o an Apple Computer?
ptaff asks: "Web developing can burn some braincells when trying to get a page to render fine in all browsers. Using XHTML/CSS on Win/Linux, thou can get a 'satisfying' result among PC browsers (MSIE, Mozilla-and-derivatives, Konqueror, Opera) - but when it comes to Apple browsers (Mac-MSIE, Safari, Omniweb, iCab, and others), and there's no Mac around to test, how can you tell if things will work out fine? I personally experienced a CSS border directive on an input tag that completely messed up a simple document. There are some CSS compatablity sheets (this
comes to mind), but can you test further than that? is there any way a web developer can check for Apple-browser-compliance without a Mac?" If only HTML validation were as simple as submitting pages to the proper emulator, and viewing the results.
While I'm not a web developer...
What about hyperlinked PDF?
Yep. You're Definately not a web developer.
no thanks
Yeah, but wouldn't a tag be REALLY COOL?? And wouldn't the company with the tag RULE the browser market?
.. view our site with ScapeNet 8.0, and here's a blank spot.. view our site in Interweb Explainer nad BLAM! You've got a dancing monkey there. That kind of shit makes out browser STAND OUT, you catch what I'm sayin'?
Just think
I tell 'em, you want the dancing monkey, you stick with Explainer. You want the blank spot, you stick with your gay Macintush with the fruit and shit. All the hip web designers are using dancing monkeys all over the place, while the Mac poseurs are trying to emulate it in JavaScript. It's just not the same.
PS: we have our own JavaScript implementation, MonkeyScript, which is just like javascript except dancingMonkey objects are RIGHT in the DOM. You can load it up and set all kinds of attributes like number of bananas, type of dance, or whether he's got the little diaper or not. Can you imagine DYNAMICALLY changing the number of bananas in response to form input?? I tell you this shit is WHITE HOT!
Just take a screenshot of how it looks in a good browser, then change the site over to an all imagemap site. // just kidding!
:)
I'm not evil - I'm just compiled that way.
"how can you tell if things will work out fine?"
Put the site up. Mac users aren't exactly a quiet bunch when something doesn't work quite right on their machines. Believe me, you'll know rather quickly if something doesn't work.
...so I used it as an excuse to buy a mac. Of course, everyone in the whole world wants a mac, but most people can't justify it. If web design is your business, you now have a legitimate excuse! You no longer have to steal quick glances at the beautiful gleaming machines in a shop window, afraid that one of your linux friends might see you. And if they start giving you a hard time about it just say that you need that "piece of junk" for work.
But two months down the road, when the seductive glow of the pulsing sleep indicator makes you use your new Mac as your primary machine, you'd better have an excuse when your linux buddies spot this among the headers in your emails:My name is Orestes, and I'm a mac user.