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Security Versus Science

dogfrt writes "According to this Wired News article, post-9/11 homeland security has had a decidedly negative effect on US scientific research. In specific, researchers are self-censoring what they publish, talented foreign students are being denied visas (approximately 20%, according to one source in the article), and researchers are avoiding work with dangerous pathogens, choosing more innocuous micro-organisms."

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  1. The real enemy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    The real enemy is not the Department of Homeland Security but the terrorists who have forced us to take these drastic measures.

    And what do you care if your research, funded by the American tax-payer, only gets read by the people with a proper security clearance? At least they won't put it to use against you and your family!

  2. drop a hydrogen bomb on Mecca by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    That's why, the sooner we drop a hydrogen bomb on Mecca and root out the core evil of Islam, the sooner we can all relax and get back to the business of civilization.

  3. Re:Sad. by IM6100 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    80% of the talented foreign students are being allowed in. What percentage was being let in before the new emphasis on security isn't mentioned.

    And: researchers are avoiding work with dangerous pathogens, choosing more innocuous micro-organisms. Duh! why use the dangerous pathgens if there are more innocuous alternatives?

    But really your comment was just a politically motivated slam against the members of the Bush administration who have been deemed 'best target' by the DNC.

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  4. the truths we must supress by larrew22 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    so what we don't inform the world anytime there is a scientific break through? maybe when the larger war is over, and every single peace hating foreign exchange student and every single surface to air missle toting nuclear-physics gurru is dead, then we can start posting all of our classified info on the web!!

  5. Re:Sad. by cgranade · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    That's right. I forgot that Clinton's dick did much more damage than invading Iraq. Lest I forget that screwing a country is fine, so long as no one but no one screws an intern.

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  6. Poor Academics by Ken@WearableTech · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I truly feel sorry for Thomas Butler and others who "mishandle" pathogens. "He is a victim of circumstance ... his handling of the biological samples was no different than other scientists' techniques."

    Who does the FBI think they are questioning Academics, they are above the law!

    Now I'm off to go "mishandle" a .44 Handgun in the city. If any one tries to arrest me, I plan on saying, "What is the big deal, I'm just mishandling this gun like so many others on the 10 o'clock news."

    Screw Ashcroft. If he would just go away the world could hold hands and sing in one voice.

  7. Re:Sad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    "Frankly, with Ashcroft and Ridge at the helm, I trust the DHS less than what they ostensibly fight against.."

    So you trust Osama Bin Laden more than you trust Ashcroft and you think it's good to train Syrian nationals in handling biological toxins in universities, and letting them then go back home? You should look at your own brain cell count.

  8. Re:OK... by CausticWindow · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Might you be confusing visas for work and visas for studying?

    There's quite a difference you stupid fuck.

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  9. Re:Ben Franklin Said it Best by Ken@WearableTech · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Oh... you are such a smart person. Boy I bet your are the life of the party and get all the girls.