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Borland Releases New C++ Toolkit

Posted by simoniker on from the c++-is-the-new-black dept.

shelleymonster writes "Infoworld points out that, after two years of coding, Borland has released its latest C++ development toolkit. Borland C++BuilderX is a multiplatform IDE for Windows, Linux, and Solaris that provides a brand-new visual development environment. Press release here." According to the Infoworld piece, "While newer languages, such as Java and Microsoft's C#, garner more attention than C++, research firm IDC projected that C and C++ professionals will remain the largest group of developers through 2005."

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  1. largest group by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Research firm IDC projected that C and C++ professionals will remain the largest group of developers through 2005."

    That's highly subjective. What is a developer? Do you count sysadmins write shells scripts? (If so, they severely outnumber all other forms of development) Can you really lump in all C and C++ developers together (is someone using Visual C++.NET (i.e. using all the .NET libraries and pretty much ignoring the "standard" C++ libraries) the same as someone using gnu C++ on Solaris? What do you guys think?

  2. Ironic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    a C++ IDE written in Java. The scrollbars are the giveaway.

  3. So how is Borland play on Linux? by tjstork · · Score: 2, Interesting


    I'm wondering if I could use Borland stuff to make services that run on both Linux and Windows. I don't expect or want O/S compatability layer. I'm a big boy and I understand how to use #ifdef. What I do want is to be able have my project on an EXT2 partition, do a Linux build, test, then, boot into Windows, do a build, test, etc...

    Thoughts?

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  4. What about OS X? by alexhmit01 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's weird. Most of the cross-platform toolkits assume that you will use VC++ on Windows, and don't support the Borland compiler very well, which is a shame. Trolltech also has a cross-platform environment (Qt), and they include OS X in there. I don't understand why Qt assumes VC++ on Windows, as opposed to Borland and/or GCC.

    I also don't understand making the effort to do Win32 and some sort of X11 interface, and not building an OS X one? Carbon is C based, and you should be able to build a Carbon wrapper.

    May not be a HUGE market, but the Mac market isn't THAT small., and it's MUCH bigger than Linux. Admittedly, there are probably about as many corporate Linux desktops as OS X desktops, but I know many Unix guys running OS X.

    1. Re:What about OS X? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      the Mac market isn't THAT small., and it's MUCH bigger than Linux

      I'd have guessed that there were more Linux desktop users than Mac users - and I'm convinced that the number of Linux desktop users is growing faster than the number of Mac users. But I haven't any figures. Can anyone point to some real data about this?

  5. This could be good. by MagicMerlin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Borland C++ Builder was, for a time, the best C++ development environent available. C++ Builder 3 was an amazing product that was very tight, quick, and feature packed. Unfortunately after that Borland went into the long black Inprise period and has had some serious quality control isssues with their products.

    Also, MS released Visual Studio 6.0 which was a better compiler for non visual programming (most C++ is non visual programming these days). IMO, this will be a better development environemnt than MFC or Java (at least on windows). The question is, will it be better than VS 7.0/C# for application development?

    I hope this turns out to be good!

    1. Re:This could be good. by Snoopy77 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      C++ Builder still poos all over VC++. The VCL is still and always has been better than the MFC. In terms of speed of development it is up there with VB without the stigma of being labelled a VB programmer.

      Borland have been pumping out great IDEs since Delphi 2.0 and nothing has changed. Once again I find myself wondering why the world is content to use Microsoft products.

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  6. System requirements seem a bit extreme... by printman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From the overview, system requirements are 512MB RAM minimum, 768MB recommended. That seems a tad bit bloated for an IDE... No thanks!

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  7. Re:C# comming by Nick+of+NSTime · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's already out. It's called C#Builder. I have a demo of it. It's neat, but I don't see its value of Visual Studio .NET just yet. I need to spend more time with it.

  8. Eclipse? by enjo13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is this based on Eclipse? Borland was one of the original developers (along with IBM) who was investing in that project. (http://www.eclipse.org)

    It certainly looks like it to me.

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    1. Re:Eclipse? by tagevm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Looks a lot more like it is based on JBuilder...and that would be more likely, wouldn't it?

  9. Re:Three Primary Reasons This is Interesting by ltkije · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Three most interesting bits found within all the marketing crap (emphasis/bold added by me)

    [snip!]

    From the details, it looks like this latest BCB is in part Borland's answer to Eclipse.