Are You On Time To Work?

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Posted by Cliff on Tuesday September 16, 2003 @08:33PM from the punctuality-is-for-machines dept.

gravitie asks: "I'm a developer in my local area. I'm on what is supposed to be 'flex time', so I can work the hours that my boss and I see fit for me to fullfil the number of hours I'm required to get a week. Besides this I must clock in at 7:30 AM every day I am at work. If I clock in at 7:31 I am late, no questions asked. If I am late 3 times in one quarter I get a verbal warning. Next time I get a written warning, then it just goes down hill from there (docked pay, etc..). Is this standard in todays business world? Should 1 minute late really be considered 'late'?"

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Re:Getting to be that way by grotgrot · 2003-09-16 21:01 · Score: 5, Interesting

One employer I worked for decided that times were tough and they would require everyone to work an extra 15 minutes a day. Everyone ended up working less. The reason was that most used to work at least an half an hour extra each day, if not more. When the edict came down (roughly phrased as "accept this or your employment is terminated in two weeks as per your contract"), everyone started working exactly the required hours, and not a second more.

I guess we had issues being treated like that, and all the managers getting Jaguars as company cars.
from the "you have my sympathy" department by leitz · 2003-09-16 21:02 · Score: 5, Interesting

Dude, I feel sorry for you. My boss likes to know if I'm not going to make it in that day or if I need to leave a few hours early. "Late" is defined as near lunch time. FWIW I normally show at 7 am and bail at 3. The boss knows even if I'm not there I'm either doing something work related at home or recovering from a long on-call issue. He also knows if he needs to tap me for early, late, or weekend work I'll support him just like he supports me.
The respect and latitude my boss has given me has earned him a less than 3 minute pager response time and a "yes" every time there is a weekend problem or a 2 am "Can you go in and fix it?" When he needs a long day, I'm there. My record so far is 25 hours straight, on-site.
Salaried? by Dancin_Santa · 2003-09-16 21:16 · Score: 5, Interesting

What are the legalities of treating a salaried employee as an hourly wage earner?
Re:Erm, try reading your contract. by nathanh · 2003-09-16 22:20 · Score: 5, Interesting

Your contract tells you your conditions of work. If you don't like having to be there at 7:30, read your contract. If they're the rules, and you still don't like it, you're free to get another job.

No. Things don't work like that. I know there is this popular myth that contracts can transcend law, but the law always trumps. Imagine if a contract said "in this job you will be sexually harrassed and you can't complain about it". Not legal. Any contract that violates the law isn't binding.
In the scenario described, if he is 1 minute late 3 times in a month, his pay is docked. Pay docked for 3 minutes of tardiness per month? I'm sure there's a labour law that specifies a limit on penalties for tardiness. The contract cannot impose penalties higher than those limits.
Now for the rant. I'm really pissed off with cunts like you whose answer for everything is: "if you don't like it, leave". That's not a fucking answer. You're exactly like the braindead fucks who pretend that the way to fix a country is to get rid of all the dissenters. Fuck you.