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Replica Flyer Foiled By Weather

An anonymous reader submits: "A replica of the Wright Brothers' 1903 flyer failed to fly yesterday afternoon at a demonstration in Chicago. Organizers blamed the measly 5 MPH winds. Kitty Hawk had 25 MPH back on December 17, 1903. IIRC, isn't Chicago the 'Windy City?'" Here's an earlier story about the various groups attempting to re-enact the Wright brothers' pioneer flight.

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  1. 100 years of aviation and this is what we get? by civilengineer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone saying getting there is half the fun did not fly on modern commercial airlines. -someone's quote I forgot who

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    1. Re:100 years of aviation and this is what we get? by SheldonYoung · · Score: 4, Insightful

      100 years of aviation and we get air travel very safely at unbelievable speeds, where going through the airport often takes longer than the flight itself. It's become so routine nobody even thinks of how amazing flying is.

      100 years of aviation and we get safe, affordable high performance airplanes that you can buy and build yourself.

      100 years of aviation and we get piston engine airplanes with greater than 1:1 thurst to weight ratio.

      100 years of aviation and we feel confident enough to land airplanes without being able to see the ground.

      100 years of aviation and we find the next 100 years is decided by laywers and the insurance industry.

  2. Trouble for the Wrights? by YouHaveSnail · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Should we continue to give the Wrights credit for the first powered flight when they had to rely on 25mph winds? Seems the 1903 Wright flyer was more like a glider.

  3. Re:And this is why Americans are called arrogant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As an american, I say credit where credit is due.

    For the first, this indeed goes to the chap from down under.

    However, this doesn't diminish the work of the Wright's in the least, because their plane was not a derivitive work copied from down under.

    They built their plane themselves, from their own research and work.

    The Wrights should not be given credit for being first, they weren't. But they should be given credit for starting the airplane revolution in the U.S., because they did, or at least were a big part.

  4. Catapults by blitz487 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Should we also then assert that navy jets are not really airplanes because they cannot get off the carrier deck under their own power and without the carrier steaming full blast into the wind?

  5. Next: 100 Years of Air Show Disasters by Speare · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I work at a major aerospace firm, and they're going crazy with enthusiasm about 100 years of flight, of course. One of their brochures highlights a small modern jet banking sharply, composited over an old sepia-toned photograph of an enthusiastic 1900s crowd of spectators.

    The first thing that came to mind was the cynical tagline, "100 Years of Air Show Disasters." Unfortunately, given some other crazed wackos before and after the Kitty Hawk, I'm sure that we're already past that milestone. Last week's Air Force Thunderbirds disaster was a sombre reminder of how hard it is to stay in the air even under ideal conditions.

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  6. Wright Achievements by blitz487 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    To find out more about what the Wrights accomplished with the original Wright Flyer, see "The Wright Brothers as Engineers, An Appraisal" by Quentin Wald. He credits their achievements as:

    1. Identification of control as the primary unsolved problem.
    2. Realization that an airplane must bank in order to turn, and invention of the first method of doing that.
    3. Recognition of the problem of "adverse yaw" and the first control system to deal with that.
    4. The first practical wind tunnel experimental program for determining the lifts of various shapes.
    5. The first efficient propellors designed from theoretical considerations, and the first usable propellor theory.

    I'll add to that the first practical rudder, and the first modern engineering development program consisting of breaking down the problem of flight into component parts, solving each part using prototypes, and then incorporating the solved components into a working design.

  7. Re:For the record by CrowScape · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll take that up. Lief Erickson may have been the first European to hit the North American Continent, but it didn't actually change anything as the information that there's a whole other continent out there didn't travel very far, and was eventually lost to the Europeans. When Columbus reached the New World, the news spread around Europe and expeditions weren't sent off and colonies were made. Columbus's "discovery" was also not influence by Erickson's journey, so the fact vikings may have been the first Europeans in the New World is more of a historical curiosity. It's a similar story with the airplane. A few others may have flown before, but the Wright's airplane was constructed independantly of all knowledge of sucessful flights and they were the ones who introduced it to the world. Invention is a bit like starting a lawmower engine. One pull doesn't necessarily mean you'll get the motor going. Hell, the Greek's invented the steam engine before the Roman Empire even existed, but we credit Thomas Savery (and later, James Watt) for inventing it, not Heron of Alexandria, because Savery made it independantly and James Watt took it and changed the world.

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