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KDE 3.1.4 Released on FreeBSD

Dan writes "On September 16th 2003, the KDE Project released KDE 3.1.4. KDE 3.1.4 is a maintenance release which provides corrections of problems reported using the KDE bug tracking system and two vulnerabilities in KDM. Ports have been committed, binary packages for FreeBSD are available, including 4-STABLE, 5-RELEASE, check KDE on FreeBSD or your favorite mirror."

37 comments

  1. Re:freebsd and kde by JobeJD · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just set my package site to the fruitsalad project(see freebsd.kde.org) and fired up a pkg_add -r kde It worked beatifully, no hassle. Took about 30minutes on a mediocre DSL line.

  2. Re:freebsd and kde by CoolVibe · · Score: 2, Informative
    Nautilus? In KDE? Surely a Mensa member knows the difference between GNOME and KDE. Or you are just trolling (which is what I suspect).

    Anyway, KDE runs just fine on my 4.9 PRERELEASE laptop. Fetching the packages as we speak. Yay portupgrade! :)

  3. Re:freebsd and kde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    BSD you grow in the ghetto, living second rate
    And your eyes will sing a song of deep hate.
    The places you play and where you stay
    Looks like one great big alley way.
    You'll admire all the numberbook takers,
    Thugs, BSD pimps and pushers, and the big money makers.

  4. Re:freebsd and kde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't make me wrong, nautilus is GNOME thing, not belongs to KDE.

  5. NetBSD, too by jschauma · · Score: 4, Informative

    FWIW, NetBSD's pkgsrc was updated on Wed Sep 17 22:58:45 2003 UTC to include KDE 3.4.1, too. Binary packages will surely soon be available for download, but if you have a decent build-host for your packages, building from source will work without a hitch, too.

    --

    -- "Tradition is the illusion of permanence."
    1. Re:NetBSD, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      s/3.4.1/3.1.4/, of course

  6. Thanks, But No Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The thing that bothers me about the KDE
    and GNOME desktops is that they both use
    GUI toolkits that are not native to X11
    (i.e. don't conform to X11 design/methods /models).
    Qt (KDE) being especially bad. I'd like
    to have a desktop that uses a GUI toolkit
    as the designers of X intended. I don't care
    about cross-platform (non-X11). And, truth
    is that neither Qt or Gtk achieve cross-platform.
    If you wan't cross-platform use Java. Rather
    than see the BSD community waste time on GPL
    licensed software that doesn't conform to an
    X11 worldview, I would rather it create it's
    own desktop system which is/works better than
    either KDE or GNOME.

    Kent

    1. Re:Thanks, But No Thanks by desau · · Score: 5, Informative

      Qt doesn't care about cross-platform? What sort of crack are you smoking? Windows, Macintosh (including great support for OSX, Embedded Linux (for PDA's, etc..), and of course, X11 (including AIX, FreeBSD, HP-UX, IRIX, Linux, Solaris, Tru64, UnixWare 7, OpenUnix 8) are all supported.

      Heck, take a look at some of their success stories.. many of them are on non-'nix platforms. Even Adobe uses Qt for cross platform development.

      Don't get me wrong, Java is great for write once, run anywhere, but it'll never match the speed of native code. Qt is 'write once, compile and run anywhere', which gives far superiour performance to Java in graphic-intensive jobs (such as modern DE's).

      I'm not a trolltech employee, I just think they make a damn good cross-platform gui toolkit.

    2. Re:Thanks, But No Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Qt doesn't care about cross-platform?

      Yes, that's right, Qt is *not* cross-platform.
      The GUI widgets (API) might be, but the
      environment isn't. What good is it to have 10%
      of your code (the GUI) cross-platform and the
      other 90% non-cross-platform? Let's put it this
      way, if Qt was truly cross-platform (like Java is)
      then KDE and GNOME would compile and run on
      Windows XP without modification.

      And the whole point of the original post was
      that Qt screws up the X11 way of doing things.
      I want to do things the X11 (right) way, not
      the Qt psuedo-cross-platform way.

    3. Re:Thanks, But No Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > if Qt was truly cross-platform (like Java is)
      > then KDE and GNOME would compile and run on
      > Windows XP without modification

      Ummm, strike that GNOME reference. I was getting
      carried away...

    4. Re:Thanks, But No Thanks by Ed_Moyse · · Score: 1

      Your post implicitly assumes that the "X11 worldview" (whatever that might be) is the right one. X is very, very old. It's extremely good at it's core tasks, but to say a GUI toolkit shouldn't improve and extend on X is (IMHO) nuts.

    5. Re:Thanks, But No Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hey, does it really really matter at all?

      I mean, come on. In point of fact, FreeBSD is dying.

    6. Re:Thanks, But No Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      BSD is fag gay homo.

      You are fanboi gai. Fruit.

  7. Re:BSD is developed by idiots by desau · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Uhh.. since when is SunOS (ie Solaris) BSD?

  8. Re:BSD is developed by idiots by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Informative

    > Uhh.. since when is SunOS (ie Solaris) BSD?

    It's actually a hybrid. SunOS was originally based on BSD and was BSD through and through until SunOS became Solaris (major revision 5.x IIRC). At that time, System V was licensed and integrated into the SunOS design. OpenWindows was also integrated in and the resulting product was known as "Solaris". My memory is a little hazy, but I think that Solaris never actually had a 1.0. Instead the 5.x series of SunOS was Solaris 2.x. Thus Solaris 7 is actually SunOS 5,7 and Solaris 2.7. Now with all of that out of the way, the user-land experience of modern day Solaris is pretty much entirely System V. There's most certainly still a bunch of BSD stuff under the hood, but none of it really matters since Solaris is light-years away from either heritage at this point. It just kind of *looks* SysVish.

  9. Re:BSD is developed by idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, SunOS1.x through SunOS4.x was pure BSD, and there *was* a Solaris 1.x -- it was SunOS4.x, so Solaris 1.1 was SunOS 4.1, and was BSD.

  10. Re:BSD is developed by idiots by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

    > SunOS1.x through SunOS4.x was pure BSD

    That's what I said, wasn't it? :-)

    > and there *was* a Solaris 1.x -- it was SunOS4.x, so
    > Solaris 1.1 was SunOS 4.1, and was BSD.

    Thanks for the info! I'll keep it in mind next time I have to explain Unix history (again) to some yung'un. :-)

  11. Steps to recovery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    While it is true that BSD is dying, there are some helpful steps you can take ease your sorrow,
    • deal with the inevitable.
    • grieve for your loss.
    • move on.
    Never let your emotions get mixed up with something as silly as a computer operating system. It isn't healthy. So BSD fails. Big whoop. Deal with it and move on.

    Hope this helps.

    1. Re:Steps to recovery by Helvidius · · Score: 1

      ROFL That was funny. I don't agree with your premise that BSD is dead, but it is funny. I can see where it can be applied to OS/2. My cousin, who was an OS/2 zealot, has finally installed Win2K Pro on his computer and he can't believe how much better it is.

      --
      "Care about people's opinions and you will be their prisoner." ~~Tao Te Ching~~
  12. Re:BSD is developed by idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you really want to be objective, you realize that BSD is going nowhere. It spins its wheels year after year. Some would say that BSD is dead.

  13. Re:freebsd and kde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    haiku

    flask of ripe urine
    passed to bsd lips
    bsd drink up

  14. Re:freebsd and kde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I don't know. There is no need to pick nits.

    Does it really matter anyway? Neither KDE *or* Gnome are native BSD software. And in any case, FreeBSD is losing market share there (understandable because it really isn't the best choice for a desktop). If you stop to think about it, KDE for FreeBSD is more of a novelty than a stable tool for productive use.

  15. Re:BSD is developed by idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    BSD and AIDS

    This just in: homosexuality among *BSD users has skyrocketed. The cause is yet to be determined, however most sources indicate that it has something to do with *BSD users comforting each other in an strictly unusual way, to be quite a frank about it, gay sex.

    On Monday *BSD was giving a sad prognosis, it was dying. It probably won't have much longer to live. So when news broke out hell broke loose. Jimmy an avid *BSD user had this to say:

    "When I heard this news I was utterly devastated, so I went to my friend Darl, who is also a *BSD user. He didn't yet know of the unfortunate, and he didn't take it well. He broke down in tears, this is the second blow to him in a week, he found out that he contracted AIDS from a Black homosexual prostitute on the street one day. I said to Darl, 'well you know something *BSD is dying, and well . . . I'm going to die with it.'

    I pulled down my pants and bent over, Darl took care of the rest. I don't know if I have yet to get AIDS, but we have gay anal sex everyday, without any lubricant for maximum ripage. The *BSD mailing list I joined reports the same thing happening among the other *BSD users. We are all planning on having one massive gay orgy on Saturday, so if you want to go out and be with *BSD up in heaven, come join us."

    Well you've heard it folks from a true *BSD user. They have all turned gay because of these unfortunate happenings.