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How Do You Punch In?

Posted by Cliff on from the daily-work-rituals dept.

grantedparole asks: "My company is planning to switch from an antiquated punch card time clock to a software based time clock, and a recent search on Google yielded many results. Searching on Freshmeat for 'timeclock' yielded two results, both of which do not appear to have any recent updates. Searching for 'time clock' returned more results, but all of those seem geared towards project management, rather than real world time keeping for many employees who don't work on projects (ie: sales people). What are the people on Slashdot using and is it running on *nix?"

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  1. Use by Aoverify · · Score: 5, Funny
    A time sheet. You trust all the employess, right?

    Oh, and give them root access too.

  2. "Web Time" by debugdave · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here at the bank we have a web page we can go to throughout the week that you basically enter your work/breaks/vacation, and then submit at the end of the week. It's really handy and well programmed (as it should be).

    Dave

  3. Used to do that for a living by Whatchamacallit · · Score: 4, Informative

    Cincinati Time clocks. Badge style reader, RS-232 data feed (modem mounted inside clock if necessary) converted to RS-485 for long distance runs (4,000 ft).

    The clocks are literally quite dumb. They just log everything and upload to a software package which was DOS based when I was installing them.

    The DOS application allowed an HR person to edit and upload the data to a company like ADP (automated payroll) to cut the checks.

    The software allowed for easy editing and various rounding rules (usually 7min before and after).

    I am now required to fill out timesheets on a web based system managed by eLabor which is part of ADP (ironically)... It's used for project tracking mostly (I'm salary not hourly).

    Far as I can tell, no one really uses these numbers they just require everyone to fill out their timesheets. It's stupid really... It's not used for payroll. I figure only 5% of the IT workforce actually logs useful data, the rest is worthless. For example, I've logged 40 hours a week for months for nothing special.

    I suppose one could get the data file spec and protocol for just about any time clock and write a web based tool or Linux native application with a little bit of effort.

    The market for these devices is still out there but many of the small customers are going with those timeclocks listed in the bag of computer magazines, etc. Same with bar-code readers. There are a ton of companies selling the stuff dirt cheap.

    The software is where it's at. It's not that complicated either.

  4. dumb question.... by jeffy124 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do employers trust employees anymore?

    I can understand having a clock in some environments, but I dont see the need for a clock in the typical Office Space style workplaces. My own timesheet doesn't even ask for times, just the total hours worked for each day and for what contract. My supervisor signs the sheet at the end of the week, and I feel it's more than sufficient. If someone feels that there's some tampering or other shenanigans going on, there are ways to figure that out. Like when they're work doesn't get done, or keeping tabs on when they actually show up and leave the office.

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  5. It's simple, really... by Jim+Morash · · Score: 4, Funny

    The tagreader by the front door just scans the RFID implant in the back of my neck every time I walk by! Ahhh, freedom...

  6. Kronos? by JLester · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Have you looked at Kronos? It is a very nice system with lots of features. You can clock in/out via terminals, fingerprint scanning, web pages, Palm Pilots, etc. It integrates with most payroll systems to keep track of vacation/sick days and such. We were seriously looking at it for a project, but the price was fairly steep for our complexity. With some new workplace regulations regarding leave time though, you would be completely covered with a system like this.

    Jason

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    1. Re:Kronos? by bstory · · Score: 5, Informative

      My company uses Kronos and it's marketed well, but in our experience poorly implemented. The time clocks are connected to the main system by dial-up modems which means that a computer with a modem has to dial them up every so often to collect the punches. In our case Kronos set this up on a DESKTOP computer. For managers to access the Kronos information, they have to install a client and map a drive to this "server". Unfortunately Windows 2K Professional limits you to 10 concurrent connections which limits how many people can use the Kronos system at once. We've also had problems with it integrating into our Payroll and Accounting systems. I only had 40 hours of vacation this year, but at one point it showed up as me having used 120 hours. As with any system, shop around, get references (and check them).

    2. Re:Kronos? by iCEBaLM · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We use Kronos timecard at my place of employment, and I can tell you - catagorically - that it is a big peice of shit.

      Every time you want to login or log out, gotta wait for the java plugin to load, also it has problems refreshing the timecard after you JUST PUNCHED causing many employees to punch duplicates because it shows they didn't. The interface is bad on so many levels. God, I hate it.

  7. I'm salaried... by Chester+K · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm a salaried employee, so I don't punch a clock.

    Those of our employees that do, however, use a mechanical punch clock with time cards. There's a lot to be said for an incorruptable paper trail when it comes to money owed.

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  8. Shameless Plug by Alethes · · Score: 3, Informative

    I wrote a PHP/MySQL web app for such a task about a year ago. Feel free to contact me if you're interested.