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VeriSign Responds To ICANN's SiteFinder Advisory

dmehus writes "VeriSign's Naming and Directory Services division has written to ICANN President and CEO Paul Twomey regarding the recent advisory concerning VeriSign's DNS wildcard redirection service. In the letter, VeriSign's Rusty Lewis says that they are open to independent and objective technical concerns expressed by various Internet bodies; they have formed their own "independent" panel of industry leading experts to produce its own, separate report; and they will not voluntarily suspend SiteFinder. It's a very terse response, and frankly, I'd have expected more from them. Slashdot readers are encouraged to visit ICANNWatch for in-depth, expert discussion on this and other issues."

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  1. Huh? by mrpuffypants · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the letter to ICANN:

    As to your call for us to suspend the service, I would respectfully suggest that it would be premature to decide on any course of action until we first have had an opportunity to collect and review the available data.

    Well, I think that the world would have appreciated the same level of consideration before the system was ever even implemented in the first place.

    1. Re:Huh? by McSpew · · Score: 4, Funny

      Translation: We implemented something that may have broken large parts of the Internet, but we'll wait until everyone has given up on us fixing it before we decide whether to undo what we did.

      By the time they decide if they really broke everything they broke, and whether they should temporarily suspend SiteFinder, everybody else will have routed around them.

      BTW: Does anybody know what they're talking about when they claim that other TLDs have implemented something like SiteFinder?

  2. There is only one correct response to this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Unilateral Military Action.

  3. Translation, for the doublespeak impaired by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Funny

    In case you are not a doubleplusgood duckspeaker, here is a helpful translation of Verisign's letter to ICANN.

    Dear Paul:
    Translation: Dear meddlesome twit:

    This will respond to the ICANN Advisory concerning VeriSign's Deployment of DNS Wildcard Service dated 19 September 2003.
    We're about to tell you where you can stick your "advisory".

    In the footsteps of several other registries that have done the same, we recently deployed a wildcard in the .com and .net zones.
    Verisign has no problem being just as sleazy and underhanded as any of our competitors.

    This was done after many months of testing and analysis and in compliance with all applicable technical standards.
    Marketing sees dollar signs, and legal says we can get away with it.

    All indications are that users, important members of the internet community we all serve, are benefiting from the improved web navigation offered by Site Finder.
    None of the lusers who installed "The Internet" on their computers has a clue that we've even done anything.

    These results are consistent with the findings from the extensive research we performed.
    They are, however, clicking the pretty buttons, just like we hoped they would.

    We are, of course, very interested in any objective technical information ICANN may have received concerning the service and would welcome the opportunity to work with you to review such data. To that end, we have reached out to schedule meetings... of leading experts in the field.
    Let's have a meeting. Then another. Then another. Then, we'll codify the new de facto "standard".

    As to your call for us to suspend the service, I would respectfully suggest that it would be premature to decide on any course of action until we first have had an opportunity to collect and review the available data.
    We're going to get our way, because we can, and there's nothing you can do about it. Weenie.

    After completing an assessment of any operational impact of our wildcard implementation, we will take any appropriate steps necessary.
    And if we don't get our way, we'll pay off anyone we need to.

    I look forward to continuing to work with you on this issue.
    Kiss our ass.

    Best Regards,
    See you in Hell,

    Russell Lewis
    Executive Vice President, General Manager
    VeriSign Naming and Directory Services

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  4. On the other news... by Bull999999 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The same "independent" panel of industry leading experts recommends SCO's Linux license and conducted a study showing that Windows is indeed cheaper than Linux and BSD.

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  5. Bound to happen eventually by daeley · · Score: 5, Funny

    We'll know if these "negotiations" fall apart if "www.icannwatch.org" suddenly displays SiteFinder.

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  6. Re:Fasilmile? by pseudochaotic · · Score: 3, Funny

    A quick look at fasilmile.com reveals that VeriSign invented it. Link

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  7. Translated... by Bull999999 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear Paul

    After the extensive research of how IE directs bad names to MSN Search, we decided that we couldn't let the bastards at MS be only ones that makes money off of poor saps who can't type their URLs right.

    We really don't give a rat's ass about what ICANN thinks but just to shut your whiney mouth off, I hires a review panel of leading experts in the field. They include Linux code reviewers from SCO, the guy who thought of domain parking for Register.COM, and the guy who invented One-Click shopping.

    As to your call for us to suspend the service, I'd like to politely say "go fuck yourself" with the upmost respect ICANN's Chairman, Vint Cerf, and ICANN's Security and Stability Advisory Committee, Steve Crocker. Crocker, now that's a funny name, just like ICANN.

    If you send any more letters, I will personally wipe my ass with it.

    Go to hell,

    Russell Lewis
    Executive Vice President, General Manager
    All Your Typos Are Belong To Us, Inc.

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  8. Of course, we all know what this means... by TyrranzzX · · Score: 2, Funny

    WAR!

    Lauch the blacklists!!!

    Verisign just lost it's monopoly over DNS with this stunt methinks. They pised off ICANN, EFF, Slashdot, 99% of the tech industry, and instead of putting their foot in to test the water and going "oh, the shark that just bit my foot off might be a problem" they say "eh, it's just a foot". Everyone is justifyable angry about this.

    So, they took of their glove, slapped a couple million people in the face, threw the glove to the ground and drew their sword, to have a mideval analogy.

    I say we blacklist their entire domain of advertising websites. A form of blackmail and protest; if nobody can get to their website to register, then they can't very well do buisness effectivly now can they? Sure, people'll get angry about how they can't reregister. The whole point is to show verisign what happens when you piss us off. Lets make a mess so big out of this that they'll never recover!

  9. Re:Perhaps the biggest concern... by sdibb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Que?

  10. Yer damn new-fangled intarnet by EvilAlien · · Score: 2, Funny
    Bah. I remember when friggin Network Solutions (no owned by Verisign) did own the web. I remember when there wasn't all this gull durn "choice" to confuse people registering domains. I never used to get asked "hey, who do you register domains with?". It was always "hey, can you help me fill out the text form and email it to the InterNIC?"

    All these changes to the good ol' Internet. Back in my day there was one registrar, and we liked it. And none of this "broadband" hooey. We had real modems that made squeely noises, and it was good enough then, its good enough now.

    Damn kids these days...

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  11. Fantasy email by lightspawn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dear verisign,

    The recent update to BIND contains a feature you should be aware of.

    In 1 month, every lookup for any domain registered directly with verisign will fail with %0.1 probability.

    The probability will increase by %0.1 per day until the wildcard issue is resolved or until verisign becomes useless as a registrar.

    We look forward to a prompt and amicable resolution.

    Best wishes,
    The Internet.

  12. Letter to Verisign by mathematician · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dear Verisign,

    I have heard that you guys are running a very useful website where I can get information about how to find other web sites (called sitefinder or something like that). Would you be so kind as to provide for me the URL for this website?

    Best, a user

  13. I hope they check their logs... by m0nkyman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because apparently www.fuckverisignuptheass.com leads to their wonderful service.

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  14. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    i don't think i've ever read such a moronic response to such an insightful observation

  15. Re:Gimme a break by Oloryn · · Score: 2, Funny
    AFAIK they have allways delivered a decent service at decent price to their customers. Compared to normal bussiness practise they are just very ethical in their behavior.

    There ya go, folks. Absolute proof of the existence of an alternate universe and our ability to communicate with it.

  16. Re:Check out the TOS by You're+All+Wrong · · Score: 2, Funny

    "IANAL, but is there any legal precidence about this type of licence"

    Zero, zip, nothing nada.

    I've not actually received or read such terms and conditions, as I've blindly run

    while :; do w3m -dump_source "http://64.94.110.11/I_AS_A_USER_DO_NOT_BENEFIT_FR OM_YOUR_BROKEN_DNS_BASTARDISATIONS" >/dev/null; done &

    as 20 parallel processes without looking at what they're returning.

    My girlfriend, however, will inform me of any change to that IP address, so I can kill all my scripts and begin again.

    My hub's looking like a christmas tree, and if you wish to replicate that pretty effect, then you too can run the above script.

    YAW

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  17. Phew! by daVinci1980 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Good to see that verisignsucks.it still does the proper thing.

    And doesn't suck it.

    Sometimes you have to watch those crafty Italians.

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