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European Parliament Clashes Over Software Patents

D4C5CE writes "The European Parliament's Daily Notebook reports on the turbulent final plenary debate this morning regarding a draft Directive to legalize Software Patents (which are currently unlawful under Art.52 (2) (c) of the European Patent Convention). The Notebook quotes some truly bizarre views and arguments (which no doubt you'll take the time to point out to Members of the European Parliament before tomorrow's vote), with some MEPs even claiming to feel harassed because they are suddenly also being lobbied by numerous concerned citizens, rather than solely by industry representatives as usual."

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  1. Open letter from SuSE by FonkiE · · Score: 5, Informative


    SuSE wrote an open letter [german] today. Translation is here.
    They are of course against software patents...

  2. Malcolm Harbour MEP by alext · · Score: 4, Informative

    Malcolm HARBOUR (EPP-ED, West Midlands) stated that patents played an indispensable role in making the EU the most dynamic knowledge based economy in the world. Patents, he said, help to stimulate investment and encourage invention. Protecting genuine invention and creativity would help business to develop products that people want to buy.

    Needless to say, this guy has a page to himself on the FFII site.

    My impression from this (admittedly brief) note is that even the most aged and out-of-touch members of the (British) House of Lords would have managed a more coherent debate on this. Still, it's not gone all the megacorps' way.

  3. Re:The citizens are coming after them with pitchfo by adamsan · · Score: 3, Informative

    "because they are suddenly also being lobbied by numerous concerned citizens, rather than solely by industry representatives as usual."

    Total nonsense. All MEPs get lobbied by the public, stop trying to make them out as ivory tower-dwelling bureaucrats. Only Arlene MacArthy, the sponsor of this whole mess, complained of harassment. Seeing as she has been the focus of this whole mess and been unnecessarily painted as a heartless crone, it's not surprising some compaigners have gone over the top. Other representatives, especially my MEPs receive regular feedback from their constituents and at least listen to what they have to say.

  4. Re:Heaven forefend! by moonbender · · Score: 4, Informative

    What are you referring to? He cited a MEP - MEPs are elected by European citizens, as far as I know. The European Commission isn't directly elected, but then, it's the executive, not the legislatory part of the European government.

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  5. Re:Interesting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    READ THE ARTICLE YOU CRETINS! Only Arlene Macarthy complained of harassment for reasons that are perfectly obvious to anyone who knows ANYTHING about the situation. Who the hell is modding this shit as insightful?

  6. Re:Boo hoo hoo by nsample · · Score: 4, Informative
    This is complete crap. I'm a Linux user, not a fanboy, so maybe that's why I read the article and can see it for what it was.

    It was the European People's Party (aka, "Christian Democrats") that had some WAY over-zealous advocates harassing MPEs. Yes, that's an accurate word, "harassing." I believe it's accurate because of you read the article (and the poster clearly didn't), the EPP rep. APOLOGIZED for the extreme behavior of its zealots.

    Joachim WUERMELING (D), for the EPP-ED group, broadly supported the rapporteur, and he alluded to the technical and legal difficulties surrounding the issue. He regretted the sometimes personal and irrational lobbying that had taken place.


    He apologized because they were out of control. Showing up at an MPEs residence and hurling insults at them on their front door step in the name of OSS (or whatever) isn't "lobbying." It's harassment. Plain and simple.

    Arlene McCarthy regrettably added that in all the years that she had been an MEP, she had not been treated in such an aggressive manner. She said she and her staff had been bullied and harassed.


    And they were bullied. Hurling invectives in the name of OSS is still rude and over the top. Contrary to what /. readers believe, acting like an idiot isn't restricted to the folks from Redmond...
  7. Mod down by alext · · Score: 4, Informative

    Arlene McCarthy proposed this legislation and is responsible for drafting it. She cannot in any sense be described as taking an anti-patent position. On this basis, the "uninformed opinion" award goes to the parent.

  8. Re:Interesting. by fname · · Score: 4, Informative
    Geeze, RTFA. Or at least search TFA. The article says,
    Arlene McCarthy regrettably added that in all the years that she had been an MEP, she had not been treated in such an aggressive manner. She said she and her staff had been bullied and harassed.
    Ok, apparently the submitter of the story has a much better idea of what makes the MEPs tick than the write of the real article does. I mean, she says she was harassed-- maybe there were dozens of people lobbying her about the patents while walking to her car. I don't know. But the article clearly does not state that she feels harassed because, "they are suddenly being lobbied by numerous concerned citizens." The idea that she considers lobbying by citizens to be harassment is just a BS statement thrown in as redmeat to the anti-patent Slashdot crowd. It worked.

    Obviously, the writer has an agenda, which is clear based on the link for the software patents. By knowingly mis-representing and mis-stating the complaint of the MEP, he only serves to call into question his own ethics. Ya, the story submitter seems like just the type who might actually bully an MEP, because he knows he's right. Slashdot lives down to its reputation once again.

    And yeah, software patents seems like a bad idea (at least as implemented in the USA). That doesn't excuse the deliberate misrepresentation of facts (or, obviously, actual harrasment) by its opponents.
  9. Re:Heaven forefend! by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative
    He cited a MEP - MEPs are elected by European citizens, as far as I know.

    Correct.

    The European Commission isn't directly elected, but then, it's the executive, not the legislatory part of the European government.

    Unfortunately, that's rather misleading. The European Commission are essentially appointed (though by elected governments, one hopes) whereas the European Parliament consists of directly elected MEPs. Unfortunately, we have here a rather bizarre system where the EC probably holds more real power than the EP. There are other players involved here as well, but when it comes down to it, hearing a commissioner state that some of the EP's amendments are "not acceptable to the Commission" is a fairly chilling warning that they're going to over-rule them.

    Of course, given the frequently misunderstandings about what is and is not being proposed here, and the fact that idiots trying to be clever appear to be alienating the very elected representatives who needed to be convinced, this could all be for the best anyway.

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  10. Re:you gotta love the European Parliament... by ahillen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Which EU *Member State* do you live in? If I am to believe what the Financial Times reports, the turnout for EU Parliament elections in the U.K. are frequently at or below the 10% threshhold. I would also imagine that in other EU Member States that have a low regard for the Eurocracy also poll quite low as well (Sweden perhaps?)...

    Why dont you just inform yoursel before just writing some wild guesses and thus givin a wrong impression? A simple Google search ("europarl European Elections") gives you as 4th link the UK office of the european parlament with information on the election turnout (http://www.europarl.org.uk/guide/textonly/Gelectt x.htm#facts) (please not the word facts at the end... ;) ).

    To quote some numbers:
    UK turnout has been between 24% and 36% in the last 5 elections, which is not at or below the 10% threshhold.
    Sweden had a turnout of 41.6% and 38.3% in the 2 elections it took part.
    Denmark had between 46.1% and 52.9%.
    Belgium had aturnout alway >=90%.
    EU average had been between 49.4% and 63%.
    Unfortunately there is a negative trend, so in 20 years your statement might become true (which is especially sad because the EU parlament becomes more and more important...)

    if France and Germany are not forced to meet their treaty obligations...

    As a German I can say that at least the fact that Germany is breaking the stability pact for the second year in a row is not due to unwillingness, but due to inaptitude

  11. Could it be Entropic ? by o'reor · · Score: 4, Informative
    From the notebook :
    Mrs McCarthy rejected the criticisms from small and medium sized enterprises, stating that she had received letters from SMEs calling for such legislation to be introduced. A company from the South West of England, specialising in voice recognition technology, had written to her welcoming her report.
    Could it be the Cambridge-based Entropic company, specialized in speech recognition? I do not suppose that there are many SMEs specialized in that field in the South West of England.

    Now here's the beef : Microsoft acquired Entropic in 1999.

    So unless the SME mentionned by McCarthy was another one (which I doubt), she's probably been telling us another whopper of a lie.

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