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EU Parliament Approves Software Patents

AnteTempore writes "The voting has just ended. Few good and several bad amendments were accepted. The directive proposal was accepted: 361 for, 135 against, 28 abstentions. The precise numbers and results for each amendment will be available on europarl.eu.int tomorrow." Reader swentel submits this report on the vote (French) with slightly different numbers (364 voting yes, 153 No, 33 abstaining) but just as bad. Watch this story for updates. Update: 09/24 15:44 GMT by T : Dr.Seltsam writes to say that the early reports are "not quite correct. The German publisher Heise states in this article, that the vote concerned strong changes on the directive." In particular, "pure software patents will not be allowed." Google's translation engine does a decent job with the German.

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  1. A quick translation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The European Parliament approves the patentability of the software STRASBOURG (Reuters) - the European Parliament approved Wednesday the draft Directive very disputed on the patentability of the software inventions, after having amended it to limit its field of application to the "true inventions" having a technical range. The text, presented in first reading, was approved by 364 votes, against 153 and 33 abstentions. It specifies the European Commission proposal, which establishes a distinction between the pure, famous software nonpatentable in European right, and the "inventions implemented by computer", which would become it, with the proviso of presenting a technical projection, likely to receive an industrial application. The text of origin was considered to be "fuzzy" and "ambiguous" by considerable members of Parliament who feared that it too largely does not open the way with the taking out of patents on the software, with the risk to constitute a brake with l"innovation in this key field of the economy. Eurodeputes added a paragraph specifying that a "invention implemented by computer (a software) is not regarded as contributing a technical share only because it implies the use of a computer". In light, so that a data-processing program is patentable, it is not enough that it is new, it is necessary still that it allows a technical innovation independently of its own execution. Another amendment specifies that the use of a patented technique is not regarded as a counterfeit if it is necessary to ensure the communication between various systems or data-processing networks. It acts for eurodeputes to prevent the monopoly which certain giants of the software could exert on the data-processing networks, Microsoft being named but probably not aimed. The European Parliament being a colegislator in this field which concerns the domestic market, the text must now be examined by the Council of Ministers, before returning in second reading to Strasbourg. The European police chief charged with the domestic market, Fritz Bolkestein, had warned eurodeputes, Tuesday at the time of the debate, on the "unacceptable" character of a certain number of amendments deposited.

    1. Re:A quick translation... by misterpies · · Score: 4, Informative

      erm, in the last sentence that should be "European commissioner", not "European police chief". The EU is not yet at the stage where the police can dictate what parliamentarians can vote on...Also the French text clearly says that Microsoft was _not_ named but probably implicated, rather than the other way round...ach, that's what you get when you rely on Babelfish.

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  2. Massive victory for Open Source campaign by JPMH · · Score: 4, Informative
    The EU Parliament passed the amendments recommended by the FFII on almost all points.

    This is a massive success, due to a level of lobbying unprecedented at this stage of a technical European measure.

    1. Re:Massive victory for Open Source campaign by JPMH · · Score: 5, Informative
      This was the instant comment from slashdotter Halo1, who was in the Parliament all last night and this morning, on the spot as the vote happened:

      Tino is sending a full list with results.

      However, we got the full article 2 (2a and 2b from kauppi, PSE 69 + non-conflicting part from 55/97/108. We also have the industrial definition!

      Art 3 is deleted, not amended

      Art 4 is the biggest loss: for 4.1 and 4.2, the commission proposal has been voted. 4.3 is 110 somewhat amended ("compromise" Kauppi, but the compromise does not change the meaning in any way).

      Art 5 is 102/111 (and 18 killed).

      Art 6a is 76(1), without 76(2), so we got interoperability.

      We lost most recitals, except for deletion of recital 6 (so no modification by NGL though) and also most other smaller amendments to the articles. So all in all, we sort of crushed the backbone of the proposed directive. I think we have a very strong start for the second reading.

      Jonas

    2. Re:Massive victory for Open Source campaign by JPMH · · Score: 5, Informative
      Explanation:

      Article 2 = Fundamental definition of "technical": what is patentable and what is not. OUR DEFINITION ACCEPTED.

      Article 3 = All software by definition patentable. KILLED.

      Article 4 = Detailed conditions for deciding patentability. AMENDED. Will now be re-negotiated between the Parliament, Commission and Member States.

      Article 5 = Program Claims. KILLED.

      Article 6a = Right to use of patented techniques, without authorisation or royalty, if needed solely to achieve software interoperability. UPHELD.

      This was achieved against massive counter-lobbying from the BSA and other industry giants.

  3. Re:Well Well... by Mjlner · · Score: 4, Informative
    Looks like lawmakers in Europe are just as stupid as US lawmakers after all.

    Nah. Stupidity ain't the problem. Corruption is. EU lawmakers are simply just as easily bought as US lawmakers. Maybe even easier.

    ObNitpick: EU != Europe.

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  4. Don't preempt by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is only one step in a complex "codecision" process.

    The European Parliament get a say in this, but are not the final authority. Software patents are not yet EU law, and still have more stages of debate/voting to go through before they hit the lawbooks.

    I think the final decision rests with the European Council of Ministers under the process in use (those Ministers not being directly elected, but being appointed by the national governments) but I'm sure someone will correct me on that if I've lost the plot.

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  5. Story is complete misinformation by Halo1 · · Score: 5, Informative
    As JPHM already mentioned above, I've been here in the European Parliament in Strasbourg since Monday lobbying. I haven't slept last night at all because, together with other people (hi Xavi, Tino, James and Hartmut :), I was making the final voting recommendations of ffii.org. We distributed a paper version of this voting list this morning and also had an MEP mail it to all other MEPs so they all could look at it and use it if they wanted.

    In general, pretty much all important amendments to the articles were incorporated. There is a lot of patch-up work to do and in its current form, the directive is a complete mess because of this, but the basic line has been completely turned around.

    Yesterday, Commissioner Bolkestein was still complaining that we (the opponents) were trying to destroyt the directive and warned against voting against the directive, because it would not fix the current legal uncertainty (software patents are being granted but not enforceable before a court of law as they are illegal). Today, rumors are doing rounds that the Commission is considering retracting the directive, because it was so successfully amended by us.

    Finally, I would like to say that our lobbyiong in general has absolutely nothing to do with open source or Free Software. We simply think software patents would be bad for all SME's, independent developers and innovation/society as a whole. Of course, there are a lot of free software in the independent developers category (and especially in the Free Software category, quite a few people concerned with society as well).

    Being stamped"linux junkies that want everything to be free/gratis" corner is however the last thing we want (our opponents have tried that, and failed until now since they have no basis that supports their claims), and we having backing from several commercial closed source companies (such as Opera Software).

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  6. The reason. by zCyl · · Score: 4, Informative

    Someone please explain to me why patents on software are bad. I'm not confusing it with copyright...that's something I'm for if the author desires. But seriously, I don't understand that bad thing about patenting a piece of software.

    As I understand the issue, it's basically two-fold.

    First, software patents are bad because the low threshhold for an idea to be considered novel results in things being patented which are immediately obvious to any expert in the field. And that's not the point of a patent. A patent, ideally, should provide protection for a truly new and original idea so that creative inventors can market their idea and make money licensing their idea during an initial period, while still making the inner workings of their invention publicly known. Then, after this period, everyone can benefit from knowing how this new device works. For example, you could patent the lightbulb when it first comes out, and make a few cents (in todays money) on every lightbulb sold for a controlled number of years, after which the idea becomes public domain.

    Software patents typically seem to fail in that respect, and instead are used as a means of controlling and restricting access and interoperability. This does not carry the same benefit for society.

    Secondly, software patents are unique in that the software world has such a short generation cycle, and conventional patent durations seem excessive in comparison. A patent on a new car engine design which lasts about 20 years might more appropriately correspond to a software patent which lasts around 5 years. But instead, software patents are often given "equal protection" of the same time length as conventional patents.

    I'm sure others have their own reasons for questioning software patents.

  7. it was a major win, damn it. by villoks · · Score: 5, Informative

    Slahdot-journalism at it lowest point ever. From FFII's PR:

    FFII News -- For Immediate Release -- Please Redistribute

    See

    http://swpat.ffii.org/#news

    Now we will have to see whether the European Commission is committed to
    "harmonisation and clarification" or only to patent owner interests.

    Yesterday's threats uttered by Bolkestein against the European Parliament
    suggest the latter.

    The detailed results are available on our site

    http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/plen0923/

    It will now be our job to help the European Parliament assert itself against
    attempts by Bolkestein and patent lawyers wearing the hat of national
    governments to crush the directive project.

    The current text has some remaining contraditions in it, but basically the
    thrust has been turned around. It has become our directive which we
    must help the European Parliament to defend. This is also a question of
    the European Parliament's role in an emerging democratic Europe. On the
    whole this is very good news for the EU.

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    Hartmut Pilch, FFII & Eurolinux Alliance