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EU Parliament Approves Software Patents

AnteTempore writes "The voting has just ended. Few good and several bad amendments were accepted. The directive proposal was accepted: 361 for, 135 against, 28 abstentions. The precise numbers and results for each amendment will be available on europarl.eu.int tomorrow." Reader swentel submits this report on the vote (French) with slightly different numbers (364 voting yes, 153 No, 33 abstaining) but just as bad. Watch this story for updates. Update: 09/24 15:44 GMT by T : Dr.Seltsam writes to say that the early reports are "not quite correct. The German publisher Heise states in this article, that the vote concerned strong changes on the directive." In particular, "pure software patents will not be allowed." Google's translation engine does a decent job with the German.

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  1. Im sorry... by Epignosis · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...but I've patented voting, I believe you owe me some money...

    My name's Darl McBride and I'm a CEO

  2. Zut Alors! by gilmour14 · · Score: 5, Funny

    J'ai oubliez tout mon francais!

  3. A quick translation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The European Parliament approves the patentability of the software STRASBOURG (Reuters) - the European Parliament approved Wednesday the draft Directive very disputed on the patentability of the software inventions, after having amended it to limit its field of application to the "true inventions" having a technical range. The text, presented in first reading, was approved by 364 votes, against 153 and 33 abstentions. It specifies the European Commission proposal, which establishes a distinction between the pure, famous software nonpatentable in European right, and the "inventions implemented by computer", which would become it, with the proviso of presenting a technical projection, likely to receive an industrial application. The text of origin was considered to be "fuzzy" and "ambiguous" by considerable members of Parliament who feared that it too largely does not open the way with the taking out of patents on the software, with the risk to constitute a brake with l"innovation in this key field of the economy. Eurodeputes added a paragraph specifying that a "invention implemented by computer (a software) is not regarded as contributing a technical share only because it implies the use of a computer". In light, so that a data-processing program is patentable, it is not enough that it is new, it is necessary still that it allows a technical innovation independently of its own execution. Another amendment specifies that the use of a patented technique is not regarded as a counterfeit if it is necessary to ensure the communication between various systems or data-processing networks. It acts for eurodeputes to prevent the monopoly which certain giants of the software could exert on the data-processing networks, Microsoft being named but probably not aimed. The European Parliament being a colegislator in this field which concerns the domestic market, the text must now be examined by the Council of Ministers, before returning in second reading to Strasbourg. The European police chief charged with the domestic market, Fritz Bolkestein, had warned eurodeputes, Tuesday at the time of the debate, on the "unacceptable" character of a certain number of amendments deposited.

    1. Re:A quick translation... by timbloid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      so that a data-processing program is patentable, it is not enough that it is new, it is necessary still that it allows a technical innovation independently of its own execution.

      So, if I write a dataprocessing program that can be used by another piece of software to do something new....then I can patent it...or the other bit of software...or neither...

      The text of origin was considered to be "fuzzy" and "ambiguous"

      Looks like they did a good job clearing it up... ;)

  4. I think I speak for all Europeans when I say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Shit, merde, pichka, schijt, geci, cach, fan, chuj, puta, rov, vittu, scheisse and a big "vai se foder" to our representatives in Brussels...

  5. Re:Massive victory for Open Source campaign by JPMH · · Score: 5, Informative
    This was the instant comment from slashdotter Halo1, who was in the Parliament all last night and this morning, on the spot as the vote happened:

    Tino is sending a full list with results.

    However, we got the full article 2 (2a and 2b from kauppi, PSE 69 + non-conflicting part from 55/97/108. We also have the industrial definition!

    Art 3 is deleted, not amended

    Art 4 is the biggest loss: for 4.1 and 4.2, the commission proposal has been voted. 4.3 is 110 somewhat amended ("compromise" Kauppi, but the compromise does not change the meaning in any way).

    Art 5 is 102/111 (and 18 killed).

    Art 6a is 76(1), without 76(2), so we got interoperability.

    We lost most recitals, except for deletion of recital 6 (so no modification by NGL though) and also most other smaller amendments to the articles. So all in all, we sort of crushed the backbone of the proposed directive. I think we have a very strong start for the second reading.

    Jonas

  6. Re:What happens to the world.. by rhadamanthus · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Intellectual property is a myth. You CANNOT and SHOULD not be able to own an idea. I am beginning to think that this may be a real turning point in civilization as we know it. Imagination and the associated innovation based off that imagination is what makes us able to do so many amazing things. Now, you can imagine building something to change the world, you can even imagine how to build it, but if someone has previously thought of it, you are in for a losing legal battle. This may be an extreme statment with regard to software patents, but the premise is frightening in either scenario. This is a legal restriction on free thought and development. Software patents are just one piece of the larger takeover.

    --rhad

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  7. Re:Screw this! by MoonFog · · Score: 5, Funny

    The coolest thing is that you actually got modded informative ...

  8. Re:Massive victory for Open Source campaign by JPMH · · Score: 5, Informative
    Explanation:

    Article 2 = Fundamental definition of "technical": what is patentable and what is not. OUR DEFINITION ACCEPTED.

    Article 3 = All software by definition patentable. KILLED.

    Article 4 = Detailed conditions for deciding patentability. AMENDED. Will now be re-negotiated between the Parliament, Commission and Member States.

    Article 5 = Program Claims. KILLED.

    Article 6a = Right to use of patented techniques, without authorisation or royalty, if needed solely to achieve software interoperability. UPHELD.

    This was achieved against massive counter-lobbying from the BSA and other industry giants.

  9. Re:Indicative by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Insightful
    the politicians who are supposed to represent the people/national interest.

    Ah, but the politicians are representing national interests in this case... or at least they think they are.

    I know Bolkenstein, the man who drafted the original Directive, from when he was active in national politics. His line of thinking is 'good for corporations = good for the economy = good for the people'. He fails to see how this equation is false in many cases, including the case at hand. Because of this line of reasoning, he will give more weight to the opinion of large corporations, whose impact on the economy is largest. Smaller companies carry less weight, and the least weight of all is given to the voice of an individual person.

    Another issue with Bolkenstein and many, many, many other politicians is that they believe that most issues are way too complex for the common people to understand. That is why they think they act in our interests even if they go against our express wishes'. And it's not just the majority of the common people, but all of them: professors and garbage collectors are all equally ignored. In true spirit of the Dutch 'poldermodel', the only groups that have this politician's ear are corporations, unions, and other politicians.
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  10. Re:Bleh. by kmurray · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Small companies can't afford to go around patenting every little detail of their software, like some big companies. Lawyers cost money, lots of money. I know.

    The real problems is the broadness of the patent law. The people giving out the patents have no idea what makes the patent novel. Patents should be revolutionary, not evolutionary. Crap is getting let through and then it is off to the races with attorneys. Then who wins?

  11. Story is complete misinformation by Halo1 · · Score: 5, Informative
    As JPHM already mentioned above, I've been here in the European Parliament in Strasbourg since Monday lobbying. I haven't slept last night at all because, together with other people (hi Xavi, Tino, James and Hartmut :), I was making the final voting recommendations of ffii.org. We distributed a paper version of this voting list this morning and also had an MEP mail it to all other MEPs so they all could look at it and use it if they wanted.

    In general, pretty much all important amendments to the articles were incorporated. There is a lot of patch-up work to do and in its current form, the directive is a complete mess because of this, but the basic line has been completely turned around.

    Yesterday, Commissioner Bolkestein was still complaining that we (the opponents) were trying to destroyt the directive and warned against voting against the directive, because it would not fix the current legal uncertainty (software patents are being granted but not enforceable before a court of law as they are illegal). Today, rumors are doing rounds that the Commission is considering retracting the directive, because it was so successfully amended by us.

    Finally, I would like to say that our lobbyiong in general has absolutely nothing to do with open source or Free Software. We simply think software patents would be bad for all SME's, independent developers and innovation/society as a whole. Of course, there are a lot of free software in the independent developers category (and especially in the Free Software category, quite a few people concerned with society as well).

    Being stamped"linux junkies that want everything to be free/gratis" corner is however the last thing we want (our opponents have tried that, and failed until now since they have no basis that supports their claims), and we having backing from several commercial closed source companies (such as Opera Software).

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  12. FFII: "This has become our directive" by infolib · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Europarl votes for Real Limits on Patentability

    FFII News -- For Immediate Release -- Please Redistribute
    See http://swpat.ffii.org/#news

    Now we will have to see whether the European Commission is committed to "harmonisation and clarification" or only to patent owner interests.

    Yesterday's threats uttered by Bolkestein against the European Parliament suggest the latter.

    The detailed results are available on our site

    http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/plen0923/

    It will now be our job to help the European Parliament assert itself against attempts by Bolkestein and patent lawyers wearing the hat of national governments to crush the directive project.

    The current text has some remaining contraditions in it, but basically the thrust has been turned around. It has become our directive which we must help the European Parliament to defend. This is also a question of the European Parliament's role in an emerging democratic Europe. On the whole this is very good news for the EU.

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    Protecting Innovation against Patent Inflation http://swpat.ffii.org/
    270,000 votes 2000 firms against software patents http://noepatents.org/

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  13. it was a major win, damn it. by villoks · · Score: 5, Informative

    Slahdot-journalism at it lowest point ever. From FFII's PR:

    FFII News -- For Immediate Release -- Please Redistribute

    See

    http://swpat.ffii.org/#news

    Now we will have to see whether the European Commission is committed to
    "harmonisation and clarification" or only to patent owner interests.

    Yesterday's threats uttered by Bolkestein against the European Parliament
    suggest the latter.

    The detailed results are available on our site

    http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/plen0923/

    It will now be our job to help the European Parliament assert itself against
    attempts by Bolkestein and patent lawyers wearing the hat of national
    governments to crush the directive project.

    The current text has some remaining contraditions in it, but basically the
    thrust has been turned around. It has become our directive which we
    must help the European Parliament to defend. This is also a question of
    the European Parliament's role in an emerging democratic Europe. On the
    whole this is very good news for the EU.

    --
    Hartmut Pilch, FFII & Eurolinux Alliance