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Successful First Launch of Aerospike Engine

ScottKin writes "CSULB announced that on September 21st they achieved a milestone in aerospace engineering when they successfully launched their 'Prospector 2' rocket powered by an 'Aerospike' engine. What makes this remarkable is that even NASA had trouble with testing their incarnation of an Aerospike engine - but the Linear Aerospike Engine is quite a different beast. More info on this definitely-newsworthy even can be found at the California Space Authority website."

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  1. Re:Huzzah for Free Enterprise by Volmarias · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It doesn't help much that NASA keeps getting its funding cut every year. The reason we end up only sending space probes is because its all we can afford to send. Private companies have the money and ability to explore because visionaries see profit in the long term. If we went nuts and actually gave NASA the funding they needed I bet we could get a man on mars within 20 years, its just that the politicians see no reason to perform long term budgeting when there's more than enough porkbarrel projects just itching for them to sign so that they can stay in office and sign more porkbarrel projects. Doesn't help that the public generally doesn't give a crap about space exploration anymore either.

  2. Sadly by panurge · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The article has more spin than a British Government press release.

    The motor worked except that, well actually it went badly wrong very soon after launch. Combustion gases went the wrong way and caused the engine to malfunction.
    Result: crash. Destruction of payload.

    I guess the definition of success came from the people who defined "interception" of Scuds by Patriots in Gulf war 1 as meaning more or less that both missiles were in the air at the same time.

    Meanwhile, relatively primitive Russian rockets continue very reliable and Ariane just put up another two comms satellites last night, plus the European moon mission which is aiming for some sort of record as the slowest trip to the Moon ever. Far from being an endorsement of private research versus NASA, it suggests that caution and extensive testing remains the norm in anything to do with rocketry. Even if the next flight is successful, I guess a huge amount of further work would be needed before anyone would risk a real commercial payload on a rocket using this nozzle technology.

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  3. Re:Huzzah for Free Enterprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Back in the day when people went out onto the sea in canoes to find new continents they didn't believe they'd get back. We're all uptight about safety.

    I'd go to Mars one way -- no problem. It could also be done a lot sooner than 20 years and the public would care because people would be giving their lives to further our species.

  4. No. by TheLink · · Score: 1, Insightful

    No. Not in my opinion.

    1) The fail scenarios of space elevators are not very good. Think about the possible fail scenarios from the various areas: political, military, natural disaster, engineering. Consider the impacts and probabilities.

    2) Space elevators only get you up to geostationary (and maybe 2X), they don't get you much further than that.

    3) From the perspective of the Solar System, they are a very expensive form of navel gazing.

    From a longer term perspective it is better to spend the resources on finding cheaper ways to get to geostationary and to other planets. And maybe even other systems.

    Once we reach the technological level to do all that cheaply, THEN we can consider building the space elevator - because it'll be a piece of cake by then. Have all the tech to make it viable.

    Just because you think you've figured out how to make the concrete doesn't mean you should start building a skyscraper. Don't try to build skyscrapers before you develop cranes and the rest of the tech and systems.

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  5. Re:Political problem, I would guess. by AJWM · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As noted, linear aerospikes work (at least in ground tests). The problem with X-33 (well, one of) is the general shape that invited the use of a linear (vs round) aerospike in the first place.

    That deltoid shape (coupled with the central cargo bay, etc) pushed them to a V- or Y-shaped fuel tank, on which they were pushing material limits. Basically they couldn't make a pressurized, lightweight tank that shape that was also leakproof. (The original 70s StarClipper design that the X-33 was loosely based on used two external tanks joined in a V configuration around the lifting body.)

    X-33 had other problems, of course. The whole vertical takeoff, horizontal landing profile is a mistake -- it means you need to engineer the vehicle for two orthogonal primary load paths, and it makes an intact launch abort virtually impossible (vs say VTVL). That latter in turn means you have more failure modes and have to engineer in more redundancy, do more intensive between-flight overhauls and inspections, and that generally you've just reinvented everything wrong with the current Shuttle system.

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