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Windows 2003 takes 5% away from Linux

ZuperDee writes "According to Netcraft, the number of Windows 2003 servers has doubled since July, and 5% were running Linux before, which is consistent with the trends they've been observing for some time. This doesn't look good for Linux, in my opinion. Maybe we should all start to think about jumping ship?"

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  1. Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    You should go fly a kite

  2. Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    "Jump the ship"
    That's a troll ! It's sad to see such pathetic trolls on /.

  3. I GOT A GREASED UP YODA DOLL SHOVED UP MY ASS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    GO LINUX!!!

  4. Not surprising. by Krapangor · · Score: 1, Troll

    CIOs and CTOs don't know whether they have to pay 699 buck per server to SCO. And that's just introcutionary pricing and might rise in the future.
    While it's unlikely that SCO will succeed, MBA owners usually hate to take any risks which might damage their carreer and thus they'll stick to Windows. Nobody gets fired for using Windows.
    But you also have to blame the US open source community. Unlike in Europe they failed to enforce a gag order to SCO stopping effectively their FUD.
    I you really think lobbying and uniting intrest groups is a socialist agenda, than OSS will be dead in US very soon.

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  5. Eat Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Completely

  6. Re:Jump ship? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    lets look at the cost issues - Linux currently costs $699 per processor on a server. How much is Windows 2003 running for?

  7. I GOT A GREASED UP YODA DOLL SHOVED UP MY ASS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    EAT POOP!

  8. face it by LuckyJ · · Score: 1, Troll

    For those of you in denial, Windows products are steadily getting better. And you are getting scared. The mighty Linux is not holding its ground quite like it used to.

    Windows 2000 is a good OS. Much more stable and usable than the junk that was Windows 95. I see a lot of 2k servers (including my own) that don't need the old constant reboots and such. They run just fine. Just as good as Linux in many respects.

    For those that argue the virus/worm route - I hate to tell you, but there are just as many vulnerabilities on Linux as Windows. You say Windows updates are always coming out? Well, are you paying attention to rpm (or whatever you use) updates and security advisories for Linux? I guess not, because you would not say things like Windows is less secure. It all depends on the administrator's competence on getting that system secured. A Windows machine can be just as secure as a Linux machine.

    And for those who would think I am a pro Microsoft weenie - think again. My background is solid in Unix. *BSD, Linux, IRIX, AIX, etc etc. I'm a Unix geek...big time. I run an OpenBSD firewall at home. I use Linux at work all the time. I use FreeBSD for other servers I run.

    If it were not for some special functions of the Linux kernel and a couple of specialized applications under Linux, there would be no need for me to run it at all at the office. And Windows seems poised to be providing those capabilites in the near future.

    It all comes down to how the OS performs the function you need it for. For some purposes, Windows is better, for others Unix is. Anyone who blindly says one OS is better than another is not looking at the big picture. No single OS provides superior functionality in all areas of computing.

    Linux distributors need to take a long hard look at the products they provide, or one day soon they will be looking at job listings in the newspaper.

  9. Re:I GOT A GREASED UP YODA DOLL SHOVED UP MY ASS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Be careful now you don't want that thing to get stuck up there.

    Imagine having to go to the emergency room to get a yoda doll pulled out of your ass?

  10. SO WHAT I GOT A LUBED UP HAN SOLO DOLL UP MY ASS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    take that biatch.

    and after i take it out and wash it off i'm going to sell it to some dorks at the flea market for 20 bucks!

  11. Re:DO MORE WITH LESS MAH NIGGAZ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Go fuck yourself, you faggot ass mother fucker. I'd like very much for you to wrap your lips around the head of my dick, and suck every ounce of cum from the depth of my balls. Love me long time, baby. Oh, and I fucked your mother.

  12. Re:Jump ship? by wo1verin3 · · Score: 0, Troll

    And I for one welcome our Bug-Ridden, overflow full of, anoying colored, crappy security, non-thinking overlords.

    Ah who am I kidding, I just want them to think that before I hit them in the head with a brick. :)

  13. Re:Apache != Linux by Evil+Adrian · · Score: -1, Troll

    You are fucking retarded. I hate that argument, that Linux is more powerful, IF you know how to use it.

    Earth to everybody -- not everyone wants to sit down for a week and learn complicated interfaces, when IIS makes it very, VERY easy to administer a server. Why do you think IIS is popular?! Because it's POWERFUL *and* it's EASY TO USE.

    You should try driving a car without power steering and power brakes sometime. You get a better feel for what driving is REALLY like, and you can appreciate every nuance, contour, shock, and difficulty of controlling a vehicle on the road. But you won't -- why? Because power brakes and power steering make everything EASIER.

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  14. In Soviet Russia... by Black+Parrot · · Score: -1, Troll


    Linux poops on Netcraft.

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    1. Re: In Soviet Russia... by Black+Parrot · · Score: -1, Troll


      > These "In Soviet Russia" jokes long lost their welcome a long time ago.

      In Soviet Russia, jokes complain about people getting old.

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  15. Statistics by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yes, let's dismiss all pro-Windows statistics and worship all pro-Linux statistics. Because that seems to happen with every story posted.

    For intelligent, engineering-minded, logical people, there sure is a lot of religious bias. I mean, really. Sometimes you sound like Scientologists. That's not a troll.

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  16. Re:Doh. by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: -1, Troll
    Oh God. No. No No NO NooOoooooooo.

    NO.

    This is not a holy war. Stop your forced conversion of the "heathens" you zealot. If people don't want to run linux, *bsd, mac, or any computer OS at all they should be left alone. Certainly the entire point of linux is freedom. That includes the freedom not to touch Linux with a ten-foot pole. I love it. I love linux to death. It is soft cuddly and always delivers in the end for ME. That is great for ME. Other people like windows some even like macs. Several billion have never even touched a computer and are perfectly happy nonethless. Good, now let them be!

    Oh and I really hate people that wanna constantly dumb everyone down cause else their mom and pop won't understand it. Ever heard of genetics? If you parents are idiots then so are you.

    Good thing people like you are not in charge or we would be in a world far worse then 1984. Imagine all cars reduced to the lowest common denominator. All tv produced for focusgroups. Games only produced if they reach at least 50% of the public. No more lotus elise, no more Band of brothers, no more SU-27 flanker.

    Why do people constantly want to turn Linux into windows? Don't we run linux precisly because it is NOT windows? Hell for that matter it ain't even true anymore that the *nixes are for geeks alone. Ever heard of Mac? Nice simple powerfull (only bad point perhaps is price but then I suppose you don't have to buy the top end system). Lindows?

    But guess what none of this matters. People like this poster want windows without paying for it. It is them not their parents or grandparents that don't get it or find it to hard. They are the ones confused when there is no start button in the bottom left corner. They are the ones that locked themselves in with their use of IE html extensions and IM protocols and now want the rest of the world to "free" them.

    The only thing that will happen when they have turned linux into a windows clone is that the geeks will once again move on. Do not forget that one time Microsoft was the geek tool. Bill Gates once a hero.

    Now what could possibly have happened in redmond that changed this? Perhaps they listened to much to the "oh I don't get this make it simpler" crowd.

    Just as their is room in this world for cars without side-panels or floors, just as we still can produce quality tv on occasion, just as some of us still can enjoy a game that needs to come with a manual thigh enough to kill a german with, linux can survive without pandering to people like the above poster. As Linus Torvald has repeatadly said, he is not out to destroy MS. He wrote linux for fun. As long as one person has fun with linux it will be 100% succesfull in its task.

    Oh and I know I shouldn't be replying to an obvious troll (this is about servers what would a desktop doing on a server?) but I couldn't help myself. Oh well let the "I would use linux if only it had X" crowd start the modding down.

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  17. Re:OK, I'll call. by KalvinB · · Score: -1, Troll

    One of the key reasons was it's anal retentive nature about Anonymous FTP. Anonymous FTP shouldn't be any less secure than a real account. The fact that the FTP accounts were tied into system accounts really turned me off from Linux. GuildFTPd aliviates that obvious security risk by not being tied into the OS. As it should be set up.

    Another was it's inability to communicate with the Windows box to transfer the server over. Kind of key when you have 80GB of files you're serving up.

    Sure, I could have spent a couple days to get it all working, but within 3 hours I had a fully functional Windows server so I don't bother with Linux. It has nothing I need that Windows doesn't offer in a simplier to use fashion.

    I have Red Hat 8 on a system I don't really use and it works fine but it's nothing I don't have with Windows.

    The way I see it is that Open Source is only free if your time isn't worth anything. And as I said, I have better things to do than dick around with an OS.

    Ben

  18. Re:Uh... by sharkey · · Score: 0, Troll
    You don't leave a battlefield just because the enemy takes some ground.

    What if you're French?

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  19. Re:Doh. by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 0, Troll
    Well I did spend some time going through your previous posts and this just confirmed what I already thought about you.

    The fact that you are unable to write a decent reply just a half-assed insult further confirms it.

    You are someone obsessed with linux beating MS. Oh we got to market it but we can't preach it. Make it easier. Clear labels cause oh else nobody is going to understand what the hell it all means.

    Grow up.

    And claiming slashdot moderation as a guide to quality just shows you are living in a dream world.

    The reason I called you a troll was that this is article was about servers. So again I ask you, what the hell do desktops have to do with servers? But I doubt you are capable of answering that intelligently. So I will answer it for you. Absolutly nothing.

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    MMO Quests are like orgasms:

    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

  20. Re:I wish it would stop being a hobby OS by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 0, Troll
    The desktop environments are just attempts to SIMULATE a desktop.

    Silly Overly Critical Guy. When you've got a bunch of windows on the sceem you've got a desktop.

    Meanwhile, in August of 2005, Longhorn is due out, with hardware acceleration, vector-scaled widgets for resolution-independent resizing, a yet-to-be-revealed photorealistic user interface,

    Eye candy that improves user experience not one whit.

    Indeed, some designers argue that a "realistic" interface is a bad idea - icons should be iconic. A road sign for a pedestrian crossing has stick figures, not a photograph of a parent and child crossing the street.

    and even the ability to add and remove RAM without rebooting

    Now that's cool. Almost completely useless, certain irrelevant to desktop users, probably more of a hardware specification issue than a software one, but cool.

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  21. Re:On the other hand by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 0, Troll

    It doesn't matter if you use Linux for everything.

    You know about Linux and use it because you are a hobbyist.

    Most people don't even know what Linux is.

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    "Sufferin' succotash."
  22. Re:On the other hand by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 0, Troll

    What does that matter? You know about and use Linux because you're a hobbyist.

    Most people have no idea what Linux even is.

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    "Sufferin' succotash."