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Few Takers For RIAA's "Clean Slate"

gbulmash writes "In the wake of the RIAA's highly-criticized "Clean Slate" program, a recent article about P2P United reveals that the RIAA has only had 838 takers for their file swapping amnesty offer. That's less than 1/1000th of one percent of the estimated number of P2P users worldwide."

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  1. Do the "takers" really count? by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 5, Funny

    37 Ben Dovers
    22 I.P. Freelys
    20 Hugh Jasses

    C'mon people, they are trying to run a business here, not deal with cranks.

  2. This surprises me by scrote-ma-hote · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would have thought that it would have been more than this. There's a lot of P2P sharers out there, and surely some of them wouldn't understand the ramifications of what they were doing. Then they see this, think "that's good, I won't get into trouble now", and get a clean slate. 838 is ridiculously low.

    1. Re:This surprises me by Davak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      An older buddy of mine got scared, called, and said that he would stop sharing files. They told him to delete everything and that he would not be charged. End of story. They never took his name, number, sent him a get-out-of-free card, or anything.

      So...

      I'm assuming if they come after you. one can just erase everything and say, "I called and the guy said if I erase everything, you would forgive me."

    2. Re:This surprises me by B.D.Mills · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's a sucker born every minute. Spammers make a "living" the same way. Spammers spam to millions, and make all their profit on the miniscule percentage that respond to the offer. The RIAA is doing much the same thing - making a dubious offer to the gullible - and it's not really surprising that the response rates are similar to the response rates for spam.

      I would love to get hold of the list of people that have responded to the RIAA's offer. I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I want to sell cheap.

      --

      The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke
  3. A good sign by 7759-60784-1-E · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People aren't falling for the RIAA's line of bullshit. It's somewhat reassuring to know that only 1/1000th of one percent of the p2p using public aren't stupid enough to completely open themselves up to litigation. I wonder what kind of legal steps the RIAA might take after this development, though (increasing, decreasing prosecutions), and what might happen to those unfortunate 800-odd folks who did fall for it.

  4. RIAA's version of a Legitimate business by Erik_the_Awful · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "It is refreshing to see that P2P United is acknowledging that their members should be more active in educating their users about the consequences of illegal file sharing that is rampant on their networks as well as the other risks these networks pose to personal privacy and security," Amy Weiss, senior vice president of communications for RIAA, said in a statement. "But, let's face it, they need to do a whole lot more before they can claim to be legitimate businesses."

    So for the P2P United businesses to become quote legitimate businesses end quote, they should act like the RIAA and the RIAA's constituents.

    1. Sue their own customers.

    2. "Offer" their artists (perhaps the programmers in this case?) unconscionable contracts along the line of "You agree to assign the authorship rights of your work to us. You will bear the entire financial risk of the marketing and reproduction of your work. In most cases we will receive the vast majority of the benefits of your work."

    3. "Cook" their books so that any profits generated by their artists/programmers appear in the vaguest possible terms, again avoiding any requirement to actually pay the artists/programmers.

    4. Control their customer's access to new and old works. Make it difficult/impossible for their customers to legally obtain works that aren't on the "top 40."

    5. Accuse anyone who complains (or offers an alternative) of profound moral sins such as stealing from the artists.

    6. Spend profits purchasing lobbying power to protect the above system.

    7. Attack any organization or entity that appears to offer alternatives to the customers or artists.

    8. Require the artists under threat of financial ruin to use the above system.

    Wow. That's a great way to run a business. I'm sure that the P2P networks would be loved by everyone if they adopted to above "business plans."

    I've got a few other words for Amy Weiss, but they are not fit for printing.

  5. In other news... by arctan1701 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In other news, 838 copyright infringement lawsuits were initiated by the major record companies. RIAA spokesman, "We're doing out part, we said that the RIAA would not sue Clean Slate suck... er... members. We have no control over what the record companies do."

  6. Maybe the RIAA will realize people just dont care! by Mr.+Ophidian+Jones · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It was pretty clear to everyone that the "Clean Slate" program offered nothing to individuals. If you know the RIAA is coming after people, what's the difference between admitting guilt and just stopping?

    Instead, the RIAA is just building a list of "admitted offenders" to do God-knows-what with later.

    One thing the RIAA and company seem to have a hard time understanding is that there will always be another way of sharing content. Peer-to-peer file sharing is just a method out of hundred other. To stop filesharing you have to stop ALL traffic on the net and screen every mail delivered in the world.

    Since I can burn my files onto a CDR and swap it with a friend instead, stopping P2P sharing through the various online services is not going to accomplish anything. Maybe they will succeed in stopping a promising communications protocol from being able to mature and start being used in other ways like in a distributed OS or other ways not yet used.

    The only way to stop filesharing is to gain the trust and liking of the buyers so that they pay out of free will. RIAA has taken the opposite route which already has proven itself futile. One can only watch sadly when they destroy great technology for no good.

  7. Unfounded pessimism by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny
    That's less than 1/1000th of one percent of the estimated number of P2P users worldwide."

    I think that this statement comes from the "glass is 99,999/100,000 empty" viewpoint. I'm more of an optimist, and I prefer to look at it as 1e-5 full.

  8. Must be a lie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I refuse to believe there are only 838 stupid people on the internet.

    1. Re:Must be a lie by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's just that all the other ones were too stupid to know what "amnesty" meant.

      -- Dr. Eldarion --

  9. Interesting question by El · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How many of the file swappers are actually under the age of 18, and thus not legally capable of executing a signed confession? What would a Notary Public have done if that 12 year old girl came in to get her confession notarized? "Can I see a driver's license please? Two forms of picture ID?"

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    "Freedom means freedom for everybody" -- Dick Cheney

  10. How strange.. by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's like an amnesty for any speeding you may have done in the past, if you promise not to speed in the future, and higher punishment if you do. Except that only makes sense if you think the cops have measured you speeding, just not issued the ticket yet. Otherwise, well you've already gotten away with it. Why turn yourself in, although you won't be punished for it - this time?

    Personally I'd like a list of those people. I've got some penis enlargers, herbal viagra, pheromones and cheap mortages to sell, not to mention some Nigerian money that needs laundering.

    Kjella

    --
    Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
  11. get free music from the library by vonFinkelstien · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I was just wondering how many others (besides me), who use the public library to try out and rip CDs instead of P2P. Sure the selection is not as good as P2P (except for Classical music, which is my primary choice), but there is no problems with RIAA, lawsuits, viruses, crappy downloads, etc. You only have to look out for scratches and dirt on the CDs before ripping.

    Or is it too uncool in the U.S. to go to the public library?