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SGI's Letter to the Linux Community

_Upsilon_ writes "SGI has released a letter to the Linux community in response to SCO's recent threat to revoke the UNIX licence for Irix. The letter mentions that they inadvertently did submit some System V code into the Linux kernel, that has since been removed (and some more in the process of being removed). The article points out that the code fragments in question had already been released into the public domain as well."

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  1. Don't /. these guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    October 1, 2003

    To the Linux Community:

    As one of many contributors to the Open Source movement and to Linux,
    SGI takes the subject of intellectual property rights seriously. Our
    contributions are a valuable expression of ideas which contribute to
    the intellectual richness of Linux.

    Over the past four years, SGI has released over a million lines of code
    under an open source license. Throughout, we have carried out a
    rigorous internal process to ensure that all software contributed by
    SGI represents code we are legally entitled to release as open source.

    When a question was raised by the community earlier in the summer about
    the ate_utils.c routine, we took immediate action to address it. We
    quickly and carefully re-reviewed our contributions to open source, and
    found brief fragments of code matching System V code in three generic
    routines (ate_utils.c, the atoi function and systeminfo.h header file),
    all within the I/O infrastructure support for SGI's platform. The three
    code fragments had been inadvertently included and in fact were
    redundant from the start. We found better replacements providing the
    same functionality already available in the Linux kernel. All
    together, these three small code fragments comprised no more than 200
    lines out of the more than one million lines of our overall
    contributions to Linux. Notably, it appears that most or all of the
    System V code fragments we found had previously been placed in the
    public domain, meaning it is very doubtful that the SCO Group has any
    proprietary claim to these code fragments in any case.

    As a precaution, we promptly removed the code fragments from SGIs Linux
    website and distributed customer patches, and released patches to the
    2.4 and 2.5 kernels on June 30 and July 3 to replace these routines and
    make other fixes to the SGI infrastructure code that were already in
    progress at SGI. Our changes showed up in the 2.5 kernel within a few
    weeks of our submission, and the 2.4 changes were available in the
    production version of the 2.4 kernel as of August 25 when the 2.4.22
    kernel was released. Thus, the code in question has been completely
    removed.

    Following this occurrence, we continued our investigation to determine
    whether any other code in the Linux kernel was even conceivably
    implicated. As a result of that exhaustive investigation, SGI has
    discovered a few additional code segments (similar in nature to the
    segments referred to above and trivial in amount) that may arguably be
    related to UNIX code. We are in the process of removing and replacing
    these segments.

    SCO's references to XFS are completely misplaced. XFS is an innovative
    SGI- created work. It is not a derivative work of System V in any
    sense, and SGI has full rights to license it to whomever we choose and
    to contribute it to open source. It may be that SCO is taking the
    position that merely because XFS is also distributed along with IRIX it
    is somehow subject to the System V license. But if so, this is an
    absurd position, with no basis either in the license or in common
    sense. In fact, our UNIX license clearly provides that SGI retains
    ownership and all rights as to all code that was not part of AT&Ts UNIX
    System V.

    I hope this answers some of the questions that you and the Linux
    community might have. We continue to release new Linux work, and are
    very excited about the growth and acceptance of Linux. We are
    continuing full speed to do new work and release new Linux products.
    We take our responsibility to the open source community seriously and
    are confident that we have an effective process to verify the quality
    and integrity of our contributions to Linux.

    Rich Altmaier
    VP of Software, SGI
    richa@sgi.com

  2. This is also on by Sir+Haxalot · · Score: 5, Informative
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  3. So that's where it came from!! by Noryungi · · Score: 4, Informative
    Since SGI seems to know what kind of "offending" code was contributed to the Linux kernel, I guess the whole situation will be corrected very soon...

    On the other hand, this also confirms that SCO is spouting non-sense and has no legal basis for its suits, since:

    1. The offending, potentially infringing code is being removed.
    2. That code may well have been in the public domain anyway.


    I predict SCO is therefore going to be squashed by IBM, SGI, Red Hat etc. Good riddance.
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  4. How hard can SGI fight? by TopShelf · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unlike Big Blue, SGI might not be well placed to fight a drawn-out legal battle with SCO. Revenue is declining, cashflow is negative, and the share price is circling the toilet bowl. And since the IBM/SCO case doesn't look like it will be resolved soon, you have to wonder how much resistance SGI can put up...

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  5. Re:SCO's case is strengthening by DrWhizBang · · Score: 3, Informative

    However, that may just be wishful thinking on their part.

    No, it isn't. Read Eric Raymond's analysis of the code in question, it is very clear that the code has been released at some point under a license that would permit it's use.

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  6. Re:Uh-oh... by 47PHA60 · · Score: 5, Informative

    In any organization this will happen. SCO is saying that IBM moved the code into Linux on purpose to destroy UNIX.

    This is very different from an inadvertant violation. If you took me to court and I could present evidence that I did not include your code purposefully, that I removed the offending code as soon as I knew about it and presented documentation that the code was public domain, but that I thought it would be better to remove any possibility of violation, chances are that would be the end of it. The court would see that I performed due diligence to detect and fix the problem.

    That is why Linus and others keep on challenging SCO to show them the code so that they can perform their legal obligation and remove it. These people have also said that the fact that SCO won't show the code probably indicates that there are no violations, and certainly not on the grand, purposful scale SCO alleges. Look, if somone walked into your place of work and said "you are running unlicensed software," they'd be right. I have never seen a business that was NOT running unlicensed software. Does that mean they did it on purpose to destroy the maker of that software?

  7. End user liable? by deragon · · Score: 4, Informative

    A bit off-topic, but in all this SCO issue, I never understood why the end user would be liable.

    If I buy say a Ford, and it turns out that Ford stole intellectual property from GM, would I, as a Ford owner whose car specifications have been improved by the stollen IP, have to pay say $200 to GM? I think not. GM should only sew Ford, not Ford car owners.

    Now why a Linux user would be liable? Contributors to Linux and other open source project should be liable, but not end users. If SCO limited its action against code contributors, I could understand it (assuming that there are some merits). But can they actually ask end users to pay up? Can this really stand in court?

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