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Mplayer Revisited

Joe Barr writes "It's been two years since I first wrote about Mplayer. Maybe the fury of the developers/community reaction to the fact that I dared to criticize them for their treatment of users kept me away. Whatever. Now Mplayer has a pre1 version of release 1.0 out there and it's time for another look." Newsforge and Slashdot are both part of OSDN.

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  1. Great for OSX by truffle · · Score: 4, Informative

    The OSX build of MPlayer is very useful, it's the best DivX player for OSX! Of course it plays other formats as well. Thanks MPlayer team!

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    1. Re:Great for OSX by Fred+IV · · Score: 5, Informative

      VLC is pretty good too, better for me because my mac is an older machine and the OS X version of mplayer doesn't always work well with my hardware (iBook 500).

    2. Re:Great for OSX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Strange, that it does not work on your iBook. I'm using mplayer on 466 MHz iBook and it works better than VLC - doesn't lose sync and is way faster.

    3. Re:Great for OSX by a.deity · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've got the same iBook, and VLC works very well, with the exception of HQ DivX encodes. MPlayer OS X is a lifesaver then, as it seems to be a bit smoother. MPlayer's not full-time for me, though, since the lipsync sometimes falls out, which VLC avoids quite well. Is there an audio-sync function in MPlayer that I don't know about? Turning on the slow-media cache helps, but isn't a sure thing.

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  2. Why review only the beta version? by TheOrquithVagrant · · Score: 5, Informative

    MPlayer 0.92 is the current stable release where everything works as expected.

    MPlayer 1.0-pre1 has some nice new stuff, but even though it has one thing (support for input from v4l devices with hardware MJPEG support) which I've wanted ofr a long time, the current pre-release is much too flakey for me to use, and I've gone back to 0.92.

    MPlayer 1.0-pre1 is for writing bug-reports, not reviews.

    Unless Mr. Barr had a conscious or subconscious WISH to find things that didn't work right, i don't see why he wrote his review for the pre1 version.

  3. Re:What about other software? by mopslik · · Score: 2, Informative

    the fact I find most surprising, is that Microsoft hasn't stepped in argueing that the software cannot be called, "MPlayer"

    Microsoft's product is called "Media Player". MPLAYER.EXE is merely an antiquated, conventional, DOS-format file name.

  4. Re:Don't flame the devs by goldspider · · Score: 2, Informative
    "Its not the devs' job to make shiny installation druids that you can click through."

    If they want their software to gain popularity and more widespread usage, they will.

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  5. well, give VLC a try by Sam+H · · Score: 4, Informative

    VLC from VideoLAN accepts almost all the formats MPlayer groks. The major exceptions are the ones for which there is no GPL-compatible implementation. It can also transcode streams into different formats, or send them to the network, serve them as HTTP, etc. It is truly cross-platform and the Windows and OS X ports are extremely popular.

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  6. A good GUI by er_col · · Score: 3, Informative

    For those of us who are less than happy about MPlayer's default GUI, there are far better alternatives, like KPlayer for KDE.

  7. Re:What about other software? by tomknight · · Score: 2, Informative
    A comment in the article mentions:
    deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main

    Tom.

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  8. Don't forget movix, the bootable mplayer by elwinc · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you're a fan of mplayer, you might want to check out MoviX which makes bootable mplayer distributions. My favorite variation is MoviX^2. You boot from the movix2 CD, eject the movix2 CD, pop in a CD or DVD with any mplayer supported format, and there you go!

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  9. Re:Were the copyright violations fixed? (yet?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Please, pretty please, before you talk about something you know nothing about, get your facts straight.

    MPlayer currently doesn't contain single line owned by DivX networks. None. Nada. (In past, they used opendivx, and while it was under opensource license, it was neither GPL compatible nor free software).

    Nowadays, MPlayer uses libavcodec library from ffmpeg project. It it fully LGPL library, you can find it on sourceforge. The reason that SUSE rips it out is simple - some algorithms are patented (please note that there is a difference between owning copyright on code and owning patent on software). The patents make it impossible to ship binaries as a part of business in some contries. However, shipping source code is OK.

    So, that much for your 'warez'.

  10. Re:Windows version? Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    well there is a windows version
    www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-beta
    i use mplayer under windows linux and osX
    i like that you can begin to watch a movie
    while your downloading it that just rocks :)

  11. mplayer suid ?!?! by SpiritC · · Score: 3, Informative

    "... I made the Mplayer binary SUID and that helped. ..."
    i dunno why he would do that but if it is about RTC then a closer look to mplayer (excelent) documentation would show this:
    If you are running kernel 2.4.19pre8 or later you can adjust the maximum RTC frequency for normal users through the /proc filesystem. Use this command to enable RTC for normal users:

    echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq

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  12. Re:Don't flame the devs by patriceCH · · Score: 2, Informative

    Last time I checked, packaging MPlayer had major license problems. I believe at some time it was not even allowed to package according to a clause in the MPlayer license.

    But even now there are problems because of all the libraries which are not in the GPL or any other Free Software license. And this is a problem mainly for Debian which has pretty rigid license terms.

    Just checked and yes, there are still issues. See http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design6/news.html #debianandsusesux.

  13. Don't run SUID root! by jimbrewer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Do not run SUID root if there is any other way to get the desired performance. From: http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/339193 Severity: HIGH (if playing ASX streaming content) LOW (if playing only normal files) Description: A remotely exploitable buffer overflow vulnerability was found in MPlayer. A malicious host can craft a harmful ASX header, and trick MPlayer into executing arbitrary code upon parsing that header. MPlayer versions affected: MPlayer 0.90pre series MPlayer 0.90rc series MPlayer 0.90 MPlayer 0.91 MPlayer 1.0pre1 MPlayer versions unaffected: MPlayer releases before 0.90pre1 MPlayer 0.92 MPlayer HEAD CVS Notification status: Developers were notified on 2003.09.24 Fix was commited into HEAD CVS at 2003.09.25 02:36:36 CEST MPlayer 0.92 (vuln-fix-only release) was released on 2003.09.25 12:00:00 CEST Patch availability: A patch is available for all vulnerable versions. Suggested upgrading methods: MPlayer 1.0pre1 users should upgrade to latest CVS MPlayer 0.91 (and below) users should upgrade to 0.92 OR latest CVS MPlayer 0.92 is available for download. -- Gabucino MPlayer Core Team

  14. Missing links? by Clith · · Score: 3, Informative
    Why are there zero links to Mplayer in this submission? Or even in the (above-score-of-2) replies? Here are some links:
    MPlayer site
    MPlayer downloads
    MPlayer for Max OS X site
    MPlayer for Mac OS X downloads
    Hope this is helpful for someone.
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  15. Re:What about other software? by FrostedWheat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Two applications that do the exact same thing. Most sane people would see that as pointless and redundant. It's a waste of resources.

    Never put all your eggs in one basket.

  16. Re:difficult my arse. by parabyte · · Score: 2, Informative

    Even more funny, I did the same thing last night on a Out-Of-the-Box SuSE 8.2 System; I just had to remove the useless crippled mplayer that comes with SuSE.

    At first I was a bit scared by all this stuff about installing additional codecs in the documentation, and I even downloaded ffmpeg because I follwed the documentation step by step, but later I found out it applies to the cvs checkout only, is already included in the release tarballs.

    The fact is: for most cases, the included ffmpeg and other included codecs will already play more stuff than any other player, and installation was as painless as you describe, I just had to add a symlink /dev/dvd -> /dev/sr0 amd enable DMA access for my DVD-drive to play dvds. Ah, and I had to run it as root, and you must not forget xhost + then to allow it to open a window. And Mplayer is the most blithering piece of software I know, but I found these messages were generally helpful.

    I really love mplayer because it is fast and responsive, delivers a much better quality than any windows player I used, has the freedom to jump ten seconds with arrow keys, ignories dvd no-skip zones, allows to adjust audio/video sync, to easyly correct aspect ratio, to adjust pan-scan (E/W key) and has really good deinterlacing for my kite surfing dvds.

    If there is a piece of software that make me feel liberated, it is mplayer; it is the most single reason for me to boot linux as there is nothing comparable for windows. (Yesterday I found out mplayer runs under cygwin, but I didnt try yet)

    p.

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  17. Re:or take a look at Xine by halfelven · · Score: 2, Informative

    it doesn't seem to support all the same formats that mplayer does [...] Xine doesn't play .asf files


    If you install the Win32 codecs, Xine will happily play all those formats you mention.

    I've a few mpg's that mysteriously don't play on xine


    I've a few mpg's that not misteriously don't play but on one of the players that i use (xine, VLC, mplayer...) and on none of the other. The "mplayer plays all files that other players won't play" myth is just that: a myth. You will always find files that are not playable on all players (or even worse, are playable on only one player).

    mplayer renders much more sharply and clearly than xine


    You are probably not using the Xv mode in Xine. If you use XShm (compatible with almost any hardware, but slower) the image is kinda blocky indeed. But any player (not just Xine or mplayer) that uses the Xv mode has the same sharpness. I actually spent some time figuring out this issue and i'm pretty sure about what i said above.

    Like i said, both players (Xine and mplayer) are pretty much the same, except that Xine handles DVDs a lot better (mplayer's implementation is only the bare minimum).
  18. Re:Spot on! by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ask a specific question. If you say "Can someone help me to get X working...", you're going to get a "no". Why? Think of what you actually just asked -- you, one of zillions of people, just said "will you commit an unknown amount of time to providing me with support for free".

    While you did an excellent job summarizing the points, Eric S. Raymond wrote an article that I found particularly helpful, and after reading and putting into practice what he was saying (all of which made sense) i started getting a lot more help from projects, and was actually able to contribute a lot more in general. Much more satisfying, I say.

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