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SGI Compares Linux & System V Source Code

mrgoatCEO writes "It seems SGI has finished up their test comparing SCO's Unix System V code and that of the Linux Kernel, according to ITWorld. SGI found that any similarities between the systems (amounting to only about 200 lines of code) have been removed in Linux Kernel 2.4.22, and added that the similarities were 'trivial in amount.'" This follows moves by SCO to terminate SGI's Unix license.

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  1. Re:reminder about shares by Geccoman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The top dogs are set to make a fortune off of this whole fiasco. I sure hope that SOMEBODY in the SEC is watching.

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  2. Re:*gasp* by overbyj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am really starting to believe the theory put out earlier that this is a a real pump and dump scheme. In Darl's contract, it states that he is in for a big payday if there are four consecutive quarters of profitability. The four quarters are over in February which conveniently is the time the IBM countersuit is supposed to get going again after the continuance.

    As much as this whole fiasco sucks, you have to give Darl credit for being a master at pump and dump here if this is the case. Come February, I would not be surprised in the least bit if there is a sudden resignation by him and he relocates to somewhere in the south Pacific or Carribean.

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  3. Re:A little more detail please by Trigun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They don't want to tip their entire hand too quickly, and they don't want it biting their stock price (if they still have one) in the ass by inferring that the code is infringing as opposed to is conceivably infringing, making the entire debacle a mea culpa for SGI.

  4. Re:Hmmm, 200 lines out of millions by Phosphor3k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    DeCSS is only ~240 lines of code.

  5. Re:A little more detail please by DrWhizBang · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SGI wants it to be blatantly obvious that they have done nothing to deserve the wrath of SCO. Their approach is differnt than IBM - IBM says "Make my day, SCO. Mess with IBM and feel the hurt!!!". SGI says, "Very sorry, but we don't know what you're talking about. Now please go away?"

    Since SCO is refusing to release that data, SGI does not see any need to - they have clearly washed their hands of the problem, and don't intend to provoke SCO any more than they have to.

    Personally, I am very impressed with SGI's attitude in this whole ordeal - they stay out of it until SCO says something stupid, and then they very matter of factly point out that SCO is wrong, and carry on.

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  6. Misquoted by dtfinch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The 200 lines part refers only to SGI's contribution to the Linux kernel. A full (though automatic) comparison found several additional matches, though they decline to specify where and say they haven't investigated the origins of the code snippets to see if any are there illegally. It's understandable that SGI's immediate priority is to defend themselves, and not Linux as a whole.

  7. Bank Robbers by blunte · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bank robbers nowdays, if they manage to get out of the bank with some money, almost always get caught.

    I always think, "Wow! Who would be stupid enough to try to rob a bank anymore?"

    Darl and his gang are simply pulling the stock market equivalent to robbing a bank. They'll make off with some money, but shortly afterward they'll get reeled in.

    SCOX will get slammed once the clue hits the fan for the public here in a few months. Unlike Darl's Ikon lawsuit, which was an altogether different theft than this one, this robbery is right out in public view, and it's not going to go unnoticed.

    Once the party is over and the SCOX investor dupes have lost their money, there will be shareholder suits against Darl and other executive and members of the board. There will be SEC investigations (that should have already begun, but public outcry haven't forced yet).

    The good news for Darl, I guess, is that he'll manage to stash some of the loot for safe keeping, and the business world will forgive him so he can pull another stunt someday in the future.

    We can only hope that he's barred from becoming an executive or board member of a publicly traded company in the future.

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  8. Re:My Buisness Role Models by Alan+Cox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Its shortermism - everything in the UK and US is driven around short term results. A lot of real smaller business is driven by the long term , and for the long term you build productive relationships instead

    People want short term results from their banks/funds/pensions, so the banks/pensions want the same so the companies get to suffer.

  9. Re:reminder about shares by southpolesammy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know, in certain circles, this is intolerably rude. This guy flew halfway around the world to meet with a long-time partner, and their response was to blow him off? At least SCO should have offered him the courtesy of a polite "thanks for coming, but our business is concluded" type of face-to-face response. But instead, they've burned yet another bridge.

    You'd think that with so few "friends", SCO would at least want to keep from turning such people into enemies.

    Of course, there's always one other possible reason -- SCO's headquarters are empty. No one resides there, and in fact, The SCO Group is the shill for The Canopy Group that we all believe it to be. That would explain why no one came to greet him -- no one was there.

    Anyone in Utah care to help out a do a little legwork for us?

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  10. Not That This Matters Any by ONOIML8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some people still don't get it.

    What SGI found makes no difference. In the end it doesn't matter one bit if the Sys V code is the KJV of the holy bible and the Linux code is actually a Monty Python script in chinese.

    None of this matters.

    Why?

    Get it thru your heads people, this is all about stock prices and what the executives can liquidate and move out of the country. They don't give a rats arse about collateral damage and the facts don't have a role in this game.

    I've lived thru this before with Gulf Resources and the Bunker Hill Superfund.....believe me this is no different. It's all about a few people taking the money and laughing their way to some off shore bank.

    Please do not let facts like this SGI thing distract you from the truth. Believe me, SCO isn't.

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  11. Re:Good to be kept honest, anyway. by platypus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ahem, and that's because FreeBSD has the corporate backing it has, compared to linux, heh?

    GPL is all about corporations cooperating (sic!), without fearing to be burned that way.

    Take your MAC OS X = BSD+Darwin+Cococa (no nitpicking about that formula, please).
    Do you really think IBM would feel compelled to contribute something important to Darwin under the BSD license, with the effect to make OS X a better performing server, but without in turn profiting from Apples additions?
    The effect of the BSD license and apples adoption of BSD technology is precisely that from now on no potential competitor of apple will add something to this technology under a free license, if he thinks it might be valuable to apple.

    Oh, and btw. the handful of people being caught by microsofts GPL-is-viral-fud are lost cases anyway.

  12. Separate rhetoric and the lawsuit by LightSail · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When reviewing the SCO vs. Open Source situation, several elements need to be kept clear. Here are some simple rules:

    1. Classify SCO news as rhetoric or legal. Most press is rhetoric only, very little actual changes to legal situation.

    a. If rhetoric, compare against previous statements to see if new claim or re-hash / forking of previous rhetoric.

    b. If re-hash / forking, compare if clarifies previous rhetoric or obfuscates rhetoric on a subject.

    2. If legal, ask if purpose is to resolve dispute or lengthen proceedings.

    a. If lengthens proceedings, determine if validity vs. delay factor.

    SCO had only nebulous contract claims to derivative works on the thinnest of definitions in its lawsuit. SCO repeatedly blathers on and on over other issues that it has not yet added to the litigation. IBM raised the level of litigation with copyright and patent issues. IBM also raised the General Public License issue.

    SCO has a long history of contentious statements about the GPL while continuing to use it to this very day. SCO showed a detailed knowledge of the GPL. SCO based their IPO on the GPL. SCO released several of their applications under the GPL. SCO still ships a large amount of GPL applications to improve the usability of their UNIX product. SCO cannot separate the validity of the GPL when legally disputing Linux and releasing Samba or any of several GNU applications. SCO cannot re-write their history before a court. Their SEC filings are public record, with the GPL included. It seems impossible for SCO to repudiate the GPL given they still have it as a core part of their business strategy. The actual filing of any attempt to invalidate the GPL would place SCO in direct conflict with all the filings that they made to the SEC. Even a win on a contractual basis would not invalidate the GPL, and SCO cannot hope to mount an effective legal challenge against the GPL.

    SCO will attempt to stay in a high public profile and convert that into stock value for as long as they can. Possibly a buyout offer will come in to end the charade.

  13. Re:reminder about shares by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For the even more lazy, since June 20 it looks like some have bought shares for a total amount of $2,747,819 ;)