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New Commercial Word Processor For FreeBSD
martin-k writes "There is commercial software built for FreeBSD after all... SoftMaker, a German vendor of office apps, just ported the TextMaker word processor to FreeBSD, making this the fifth platform it runs on (after Windows, Pocket PC, Handheld PC, and Linux). Blazingly fast, reads and writes Microsoft Word files seamlessly, and offers everything you expect from a modern word processor. Also coming to your desktop: the PlanMaker spreadsheet and DataMaker database package."
If I don't have FP I'll suck Darl McBrides shriveled cock!
Better sell off your Microsoft Word shares, this thing is gonna be huge.
Just for kicks, we did an x86 Solaris port in an afternoon. I guess we'll do a few more Unices -- except for Unixware, of course.
SoftMaker Office for Windows|Linux|Android
The *BSD Wailing Song
What's left for me to see
In my ship I sailed so far
What can the answer be
Don't know what the questions are.
And after all I've done
Still I cannot feel the sun
Tell me save me
In the end our lost souls must repent.
I must know it is for certain
Can it be the final curtain
As long as the wind will blow
I'll be searching high and low.
Who knows what's really true
They say the end is so near
Why are we all so cruel
We just fill ourselves with fear.
And heaven and hell will turn
All that we love shall burn
Hear me trust me
In the end our lost sould must repent.
I must know it is for certain
Can it be the final curtain
As long as the wind will blow
I'll be searching high and low
Final curtain
Final curtain
flask of ripe urine
pressed to bsd lips
bsd drink up
Yet another cunting bombshell hit the "community" of *BSD asswipes when IDC recently confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of one single puny fucking percent of all servers. Coming hot on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more fucking market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is ingesting itself backwards, disappearing up its very own shitter, as fittingly exemplified by coming a piss poor dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a cock-sucking Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any fucking future at all for *BSD because that sorded, shit-filled, mutated testicle of an operating system is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink splashes across the accounting documents like a series of exploding bloodfarts. FreeBSD munches the most ass of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD cuntwipes Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying and its rotting corpse smells worse than a maggot, vomit, shit and piss cocktail.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the fucking numbers, shall we? OK!
OpenBSD wanker Theo states that there are a pathetic 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Oh, God, let's fucking see... The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore it's turd-suckingly obvious that there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore, by simple fucking arithmetic, there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. Surprise fucking surprise, this is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of those arseholes at Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD showed themselves to be a bunch of retarded tossers, went out of business and were taken over by BSDI who sell another special needs OS. Now BSDI is also a miserable failure, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house... pathetic.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily fucking declined in market share. *BSD is where it belongs, at death's door and its long term survival prospects are almost non-fucking-existant. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among moronic, dilettante shitheads. *BSD continues to Chew Satan's Dick And Fuck The Baby Jesus Up The Pooper. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD IS A FUCKING USELESS WASTE OF BITS AND IS DYING LIKE THE DOG THAT IT IS. IT MAKES ME SICK JUST THINKING ABOUT IT.
In other words, while I'm always happy to see my platform of choice supported, I wouldn't expect any significant commercial gain for SoftMaker. Most people won't be interested in a proprietary office suite - just as with Linux people, but the FreeBSD desktop market is obviously a lot smaller than even the Linux one - and others would have bought it anyway, even without a native port.
(Of course, if they would be hiring, I would be much more enthusiastic ;-)
(As I would if this story wouldn't be about TextMaker, but VMWare, which is the only proprietary program that I really, really miss.)
Programming can be fun again. Film at 11.
I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you BSD fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a BSD box (a PIII 800 w/512 Megs of RAM) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this BSD box, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.
In addition, during this file transfer, Netscape will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even Emacs Lite is straining to keep up as I type this.
I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various BSD machines, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a BSD box that has run faster than its Windows counterpart, despite the BSD machines faster chip architecture. My 486/66 with 8 megs of ram runs faster than this 800 mhz machine at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that BSD is a "superior" machine.
BSD addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a BSD over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.
Deserves to be modded "-1 Retarded".
BSD has never been stronger. It's a very attractive OS for those who can see past the community's Stockholm Syndrome infatuation with Linux.
Linux is certainly not perfect - nor is FreeBSD - but each have advantages over the other. If you're running an OS to get work done, you're going to be more productive (and productive sooner) on FreeBSD than Linux.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of BSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major marketing surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among hobbyist dilettante dabblers. In truth, for all practical purposes *BSD is already dead. It is a dead man walking.
Fact: *BSD is dying
Maybe I am unclear on the copyright infringement thing and everything, but doesn't this conflict with MS in some way?!
;-)
I mean, Open Office is freeware (also works on FreeBSD) but they're selling something like this with Word capabilities? I smell trouble...or maybe it's just me
BTW, I am not a fan of commercial apps for OSS platforms, seems contradicting somehow
Error 407 - No creative sig found
(I don't need it right now, but surely, it's nice to have.)
Anyways...Why is it more expensive for Europeans? not only it's more costly.. the price is in Pounds, when most Europeans would pay in Euros !!
Here are the words to use in the BSD word processor program:
dead, kaput, corpse, cadaver, zombie, deceased, bought the farm, kicked the bucket, stick a fork in it its done, time for a funeral.
I, for one, look forward to using it to write CSI: Miami scripts and obituaries for the local newspaper, and fan letters for the Jack Klugman "Quincy" fan club.
Click here to see the most appropriate case mod for a *BSD system.
If you can also print out your word processor documents on mummy-wraps, you've got it made.
Start by calling HP and asking for the special *BSD-compatible inkjet printer that shoots out embalming fluid instead of ink.
would like to welcome our dead operating system overlords.
Err, no.
*NIX already has a wonderful, Visio-compatible application.
Cast:
Mr. Praline: John Cleese
Shop Owner: Michael Palin
A customer enters an operating system shop.
Mr. Praline: 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint. (The owner does not respond.)
Mr. Praline: 'Ello, Miss?
Owner: What do you mean "miss"?
Mr. Praline: I'm sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint!
Owner: We're closin' for lunch.
Mr. Praline: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this operating system what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.
Owner: Oh yes, the, uh, *BSD...What's,uh...What's wrong with it?
Mr. Praline: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. It's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
Owner: No, no, it's uh,...it's resting.
Mr. Praline: Look, matey, I know a dead operating system when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
Owner: No no it's not dead, it's, it's restin'! Remarkable OS, *BSD, idn'it, ay? Beautiful kernel!
Mr. Praline: The kernel don't enter into it. It's stone dead.
Owner: Nononono, no, no! It's resting!
Mr. Praline: All right then, if it's restin', I'll wake it up! (bashes at the keyboard) 'Ello, Mister *BSD! I've got a lovely fresh kernel update for you if you show...
(owner hits the keys)
Owner: There, it spewed some debug output to the command line!
Mr. Praline: No, it didn't, that was you hitting the keys!
Owner: I never!!
Mr. Praline: Yes, you did!
Owner: I never, never did anything...
Mr. Praline: (yelling and typing into the console repeatedly) 'ELLO COMMAND PROMPT!!!!! Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock cron job!
(Rips out hard drive from computer case and thumps it on the counter. Shoves it back inside the case and reboots the system - blank screen.)
Mr. Praline: Now that's what I call a dead operating system.
Owner: No, no.....No, it's stunned!
Mr. Praline: STUNNED?!?
Owner: Yeah! You stunned it, just as it was finishing an I/O task! *BSD stuns easily, major.
Mr. Praline: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That operating system is definitely deceased, and when I purchased it not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of responsiveness was due to it bein' in the process of recompiling itself after a particularly comprehensive code update.
Owner: Well, it's...it's, ah...probably pining for some dilettante dabbling.
Mr. Praline: PININ' for some DILETTANTE DABBLING?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that? Look, why did it fall flat on its back the moment I started Emacs?
Owner: *BSD prefers swapping everything out to the hard drive! Remarkable variant, id'nit, squire? Lovely kernel!
Mr. Praline: Look, I took the liberty of examining the system when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been printing any text at all to the screen was because of all the WORRYING COMPILER WARNINGS encountered while it was being rebuilt.
(pause)
Owner: Well, o'course it was spitting out those warnings! If I hadn't updated the kernel with an unstable development build, you might have had your FTP server compromised [slashdot.org], and VOOM! Bye bye to your business.
Mr. Praline: "Server"?!? Mate, this OS wouldn't "serve" if you put four million volts through it! It's bleedin' demised!
Owner: No no! It's pining!
Mr. Praline: It's not pinin'! It's passed on! This OS is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet its maker! [lemis.com] It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! It's kicked the bucket, it's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! The numbers continue to decline for *BSD but FreeBSD may be hurting
Has anyone here actually tried Textmaker? If it delivers what the web site states, then it is probably worth paying for. They have a free 30 day trial version which I am currently downloading. If I like it and think it will do a better job than the other software I am currently using then I will pay for it. If not, well hey, it is just fun trying new stuff out.
Saying your OS is the best because more people use it is like saying MacDonalds make the best food
1. You can not play games on it.
2. It cannot be used by my grandma.
3. It lacks a GUI of any note.
4. There is no support available for it.
5. It is an assortment of fragmented OSes.
6. It cannot be run on the x86 platform.
7. You have to compile everything and know C.
8. Support for the latest hardware is always poor.
9. It is incompatiable with GNU/Linux.
10.It is dying.
- Abiword and Kword don't have enough features to make them viable for the office, and they don't provide good Word file compatibility.
When I pimp Open Source in offices and hear 'I want word' I show Abiword. The response is 'ok, I can try that, it looks like word'. The 70 users in 3 locations using Abiword have not come back and said 'I'm missing this from word.'.
$0 is a powerful modivational tool. Alas, you are not 'at the bottom'. But, if Abiword 'fails' I'll offer up TextMaker. (also, contact the freebsd team and have textmaker put into ports.)
The better the codebase is, and if indeed it is so portable a simple ./configure ; make install will suffice, the more platforms software "X" will run on. For commercial software, this means that they don't have to bend over backwards for a slight increase in marketshare by offering a commercial (if unsupported) piece of software for the more esoteric UNIX platforms out there.
:-)
Ie, if you were a company that created a word processor built on C/C++, and you had made an effort to use appropriate configure scripts on Unix to assist in creating builds, by putting a small amount of time in to enable the code to build on esoteric-platform-1, and it worked, you suddenly have an entirely new (if small) market to sell your product to.
However, if your application sucks, nobody is going to buy it. But if you sold each application with a license that enabled *any* platform (ie, pay $49 and download program for windows/linux/bsd), and not having to pay for a copy of the linux vs bsd version, woo.. happy endusers.
I dunno what I'm saying at this point, just rambling.
Man watching 6 MSCE's around a sun box, looks alot like the opening scene's of 2001:space odyssey...
The record is clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shroud over a once hopeful *BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.
Elegy For *BSD
I am a *BSD user
and I try hard to be brave
That is a tall order
*BSD's foot is in the grave.
I tap at my toy keyboard
and whistle a happy tune
but keeping happy's so hard,
*BSD died so soon.
Each day I wake and softly sob
Nightfall finds me crying
Not only am I a zit faced slob
but *BSD is dying.
I assume you're talking about a buildworld/installworld here.
Can you give me details of how you did this? I'm looking to get a buildbox soon, so I'm interested in any tips (at least, those backed up by benchmarks) people have on the issue.
Tarsnap: Online backups for the truly paranoid
As some of you have pointed out, yep, that's 1.5GHz. *blush*
This was with FreeBSD-STABLE; I'm now using -CURRENT, for which buildworld/installworld takes considerably longer.
Also, (some may consider this cheating), I usually skipped the kernel config unless something important had changed. The kernel config might add 5-10 minutes (again, longer now with -CURRENT).
Setup details (hardware): The 1.5GHz chip is an Athlon XP1800+. The FreeBSD slice is on a RAID0 array consisting of two IBM 40GB ATA100 drives (shared with Win2K; Gentoo and Win98 share a 20GB IBM ATA66 HD). 512MB of PC2100 DDR RAM. Nice stuff for when I built it, but solidly middle-class today, I think.
Setup details (software): Softupdates enabled on root. Tagged queueing at that time on the IBM drives, no longer an option now. No ramdisk; I tried it, and build times were within seconds of what they were without it, sometimes longer, sometimes shorter. And definitely no -jx; as others have reported, that slowed things down for me. Make.conf set (with gcc 2.95 at the time) for i686, no games and no profiled libraries. I mounted the non-root non-swap partitions (for me, /var and /usr) -noatime. Because of the 512MB RAM, I could also leave swap turned off if I chose. I dropped to single user most times, but occasionally didn't bother - I don't remember this making a significant difference to build times. That's pretty much it.
Once again, Opensources caps propeitery's ass!
Appears to be based on Qt so no thanks. Either
write software using X11 or don't waste my time.
Qt is not X11.
Damn people, let it go!!! Who cares if a BSD
platform based word processor reads/writes MS
Office formats. Why do you keep trying to fit
into the MS world/way of doing things. Just be
BSD, strive for excellence and be your *own*
community. Give me a word-processor that produces
Troff and/or LaTex, please.
Tested it on NetBSD with Linux emulation. Works just fine, was quite fast and sweet. Only problem was that when I tried adding lists, I could not get out of the list mode... Anyway, I wouldn't pay 50eur from it, because there are similar choises for no charge.
Judmark, you seem to be "in the know", and perhaps have experience in this matter. Could you explain to me why so many gay folks use FreeBSD? I always thought of Apple as the "gay" operating system, but FreeBSD is closing fast. To what do you attribute this?
yhbt
This is the only way to win me. ;-)
Unfortunately, the trolls are taking over the BSD postings (or more correctly everyone else is abandonding slashdot bsd forums and leaving them to pleasure themselves in peace)
If it compiles with a one line change for FreeBSD, how about a demo version compiled for OpenBSD, with hopefully one line changed? I'll buy it if it runs on OpenBSD. Guess I should look into freebsd emulation mode.
Slashdot needs an "advertisement for proprietary software" category, so that those who don't want to hear about proprietary software unless followed by "now has a Free Software replacement" can filter them out.
It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is growing
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Windows community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has risen yet again, now up to more than 30 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has gained more market share , this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is sending other OSes into complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by topping the charts in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Daemon to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a long and prosperous future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Windows Server because *BSD is growing. Things are looking very good for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to gain market share. Red ink flows from Redmond like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most loved of them all, having gained 93% more core developers. The sudden and pleasant release of the long developed 5.0 only serves to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is growing.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 70000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 70000/5 = 14000 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 7000 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (70000+14000+7000)*4 = 364000 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the release of OSX, cool new technologies and so on, FreeBSD is expanding into more desktops than ever. FreeBSD has become more than the sum of its parts.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily gained in market share. *BSD is very powerful and its long term survival prospects are very bright. If Windows is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to improve. The progress achieved is nothing short of a miracle. For all practical purposes, *BSD is alive and kicking.
Fact: *BSD will kick your ass
You mean IHBT.
" Maybe BSD folk feel they don't need to say a lot."
Dead men tell no tales.
What about us poor diehards who still haven't gotten the message (and never will!) that BeOS is dead?