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Mono-culture And The .NETwork Effect

Posted by timothy on from the who's-zoomin-who dept.

Sun Tzu writes "This article discusses the dangers posed by a very successful Mono project. Microsoft has several means at their disposal to effectively shut down Mono if it should ever gain critical mass. Unfortunately, Linux would be the big loser if that were to happen."

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  1. Variety by Ycros · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Linux's strength lies in its variety, not everyone will commit to developing with mono.
    There will always be alternatives.

    Whereas with Windows development everyone and their dog are jumping into .net.

    You don't have to use mono on Linux, on Windows this is becoming less of a choice.

  2. It would be a shame... by mrt300 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...if MS where to shut down the Mono project. The last few releases have really come a long way and I, for one, am looking forward to the day when I can use Mono on Windows as a complete replacement for the MS.Net binaries.

    A very worthwhile effort is the mod_mono subproject, which aims for Apache integration, allowing us Apache users to dish out ASP.Net faster and more securely than IIS.

  3. Mono is no more of a threat than Wine is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unlike the UNIX braintrust, Microsoft makes sure their products are a moving target to prevent people from copying them.

    By the time Mono has finally reverse-engineered NET 1.1, Microsoft will be releasing NET 2.0. They'll keep adding to the APIs, they'll hook into Windows, leave parts undocumented, whatever it takes to ensure that nothing comes close. Mono will be stuck running trivial or toy programs.

    This is just like the Wine project -- for years people have been promising that you'll just be able to install Wine and fire up any Windows app. But there's always another and another and another API that Wine hasn't gotten around to yet.

  4. I've said it before, and I'll say it again.... by JoeLinux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...I've never understood why Miguel suddenly believes MS that it is playing fair now. I think he should have a chat with Jeremy Allison from SAMBA to straighten him out.

    Maybe he's been taking gullible pills, I dunno. Let .NET die. Do NOT support MS in any way. Continue to "skim the top" of the best features of MS's stuff for interaction purposes only...

    We have MS in a good position right now: Longhorn delayed, about to make a 32 bit to 64 bit conversion that they can't transition with easily, draconian licensing schemes making IT people back up, etc. Now is NOT the time to support MS' foolhardy attempt to dominate the real 'net.

    1. Re:I've said it before, and I'll say it again.... by danheskett · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, no, no.

      You are bigtime wrong.

      .NET is MS reading the writing on the wall: namely, that Windows is a dying brand, that will not be relevant in the long-term future as a major cash cow.

      "Little" OS's chipping at Windows: Linux, MacOS, etc will eventually force desktop OS's to be commoditized, and MS knows this, and realized it a long time ago.

      .NET is a 10-year hedge against that. Thanks to .NET, MS has the ability to ditch Windows in the future. As Windows fades, MS can be assured that its other cash cows - MS Office, the backend products, etc are still viable and dont need rapid porting to a new platform.

      Look at it this way: .NET ensures MS's relevance even if Windows fails. Virtually all of the Windows software developed in the next decade will be developed with varying degress of support for .NET. Even now its starting to trickle into the marketplace. Desktop software, server-side software, everything. Even games will soon be enginered with maanged C# code. MS has started using it for their internal development of various products. As hardware adapts and as performance is tweaked and improved, everything MS writes will be done with .NET. At that point - 5 years, 10 years, etc - in the future MS will have successfully allowed themselves to be #1 regardless of hardware vendor, architecture, operating system, and even written language!

      Sun is virtually a solved problem: they are sick company who cannot continue to compete with MS in the fashion it has been. COntinued massive losses pile up to spending cuts and focusing only on profitable products. McNealey already is having to focus on profitable businesses at the expense of "long-term vision". Shareholders won't tolerate the types of losses that Sun has posted recently for very long. As it is Sun isn't even profiting from Sun as much as other major players: that's a bad thing from a business perspective.

      It all boils down to this: keeping .NET around, healthy, and adopted for alot of software development is currently in MS's best interests. It means that even if they are directly profiting they will be relevant no matter what happens in the industry.

      In another decade moving to .NET now will be seen by analysts as MS's most brillant move. Windows decline has begun in ernest. Linux is on the rise. Apple is on the (modest) rise. But yet MS will continue to thrive. And be poised to be viciously competitive regardless of what the "next big thing" is.