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Three New Releases (And Other News) From Mozilla
An anonymous reader writes "A couple of interesting releases by mozilla.org. First of all Mozilla 1.5 was released. This is supposed to be the last version of the old Mozilla suite. Mozilla Firebird 0.7, the stand-alone browser by mozilla.org was also released today. It includes many new features, e.g. Web Panels. For more information see the newly designed product page for Firebird. A third release is the stand-alone version of the Mozilla mail-program Thunderbird , which has now reached version 0.3.
The Mozilla Foundation also launched new end user services, like CD Sales and Telephone Support. As an effort to target more end-users, a redesigned website was also created.
As always MozillaZine has all of the stories, too.
Give these new releases a try, but please use a mirror if possible."
Even on my windows machines I use nightlies of MozillaFirebird as the default browser! It's simply just the best - The ONLY thing I have come across is that it sometimes crashes when you use back several times in quick succession (possibly when there are flash or java or the like on some of the intermediate pages). ;) (not sure if I'm just ignorant, but that's a definite possibility!) :) Thunderbird is very cool also! (Also my default mail app!)
Other than that, it's Firebirdlife is blissful
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They've been actively working toward it. There's been a lot of work on getting Firebird and THunderbird stable. Once they get to the point where they're as good as Seamonkey, they will replace it as the new browser and mail components. From what I've seen of Firebird, it shouldn't be long now. (Though I still use Mozilla for the time being)
Check out the Mozilla roadmap. It shows a version 1.6 coming out in December 2003. Of course, it looks like 1.5 is several months "late" (an observation, not criticism) so I guess the schedule could be a bit loose.
BTW, for us who are too lazy to go find out ourselves, what makes firebird better than mozilla itself? I find mozilla to be quite satisfactory, why would I switch?
There is one major regression from Mozilla 1.4 to Mozilla 1.5: the support for the MNG image format has been removed. This means that all those who thought that they could replace the animated GIFs on their pages with the patent-free MNG format will have to go back to GIF or Flash. This also means that JNG, a subset of MNG allowing JPEG-style photgraphic images with full transparency, is broken as well since the release of Mozilla 1.5.
The worst part is how this was handled: support for MNG was dropped because the code was too large and there was no maintainer, but then it was never restored despite impressive reduction of the size of the code and the presence of several active developers.
For details, take a look at Bug 18574. The release of 1.5 without MNG support is a sad day for those who love open image formats.
For those of you wondering why the mozilla servers are swamped all of a sudden, it's because they just recently moved all the servers off of the AOL backbone onto a different host (one of the effects of AOL nixing Netscape), so we're no longer able to get oodles of bandwidth like we used to. Please be understanding while the servers undergo a slashdotting :)
Yes... well, sort of. I checked the page source for the filename of Firebird 0.7 and stuck it into Google. I got one hit and it downloaded very fast. I hesitate to post the link because it's probably someone's home machine. However, anyone with sufficient skill will be able to duplicate my feat.
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1032 985422
linky
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Like I said elsewhere, I use the Dag-Apt Firebird RPMS, which are available for RH7.3, RH8 and RH9. Linkage: http://dag.wieers.com/packages/mozilla-firebird/
Unfortunately they only have 0.6.1 packages at the moment, but I'm sure they'll update to 0.7. I checked the apt repository at FreshRPMS as well and they haven't updated yet either.
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Apparently, you are talking about a completely different browser. Firebird does not have mouse gestures installed by default. Mouse Gestures is an extension that you have to install yourself. You can't disable what you don't have. ;-) Also, mouse gestures are AWESOME! It saves you loads of time if you're a frequent net browser.
I'm probably going to regret this but I've put a BT tracker, seed and .torrent file online anyway:
e bird-0.7-win32.zip.torrent
http://tcnnet.dyndns.org/do
wnloads/MozillaFir
MozillaFirebird-0.7-win32.zip.torrent
I only have the win32 version right now, I'll try to put the linux one online once it completes downloading (and post the link as a child to this posting).
Note: My link is very slow (thus the first seeding clients low speed) so it would be nice if you could help seeding if you can.
Others are having problems too: bug 222241
Composer I know for a fact will still be developed, as outlined in this MozillaZine article. One of the primary authors, Daniel Glazman, has been hired by the Lindows company (seriously) to maintain it and he plans to check the code into the Mozilla CVS. It will be a standalone application like Firebird and Thunderbird, eventually using the shared Gecko backend that's in the works.
As for ChatZilla, it's available as an extension for Firebird, and I've heard talk of making a standalone app version too, although I can't find a link to back it up. But the point is, the developers of these projects haven't randomly abandoned them, they'll still be here in the post-SeaMonkey world. Or as another poster said, you can always just run SeaMonkey, although I happen to prefer the birds.
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http://blackdiamond.mozdev.org
The Black Diamond project is a project to create a distrubution of Firebird with many of the popular extentions added.
"Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; HP-UX 9000/785; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030707"
You need to analyze it properly:
X11 means you're using the X11 window manager (X Window)
U stands for Unix
HP-UX 9000/785 means that you probably have a HP 9000 with OS build 785. Build 785 happens to be v 10.20
en-US means your language is English and that you are located in the US
rv is the revision of Mozilla (1.4 in your case)
It's actually the same on Windows. Windows XP is written as Windows NT 5.1 for example.
I just managed to get the Linux version as well, here is the torrent. Enjoy! (get BitTorrent first if needed)
I was able to get it from ftp.mozilla.org. The trouble is the link on the releases page sends you to their web server with an http:// link. Hit them on ftp://ftp.mozilla.org and you should be able to download the new release just fine.
You can accomplish anything you set your mind to. The impossible just takes a little longer.
Third and last: just got through to the Win32 version, here is the torrent. Have fun. (get BitTorrent first if needed)
Thunderbird 0.3 Win32 torrent available HERE.
Firebird is still horribly slow to scroll up and down when compared to IE. Very annoying when using up/down arrows (or left clicking the slider area) to navigate long web pages (such as /. discussions) where you want to go up or down many (10+) pages. You think this would have been worked on. Load time is faster, why isn't scrolling?