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Chinese Experiment Creates Three-Parent Fetuses
what_the_frell writes "BBC News is reporting that a foetus has been created from the eggs of two women and the sperm of one man in China. Apparently, none of the three resulting foetuses survived, but it does raise some interesting questions about cloning, and more importantly, 'Who's your Mama?'"
so...who was cartman's mom?
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...a 2 woman/1 man threesome actually sounds unappealing in this context.
...for once again coming in DEAD LAST on the news.
Go back to announcing Linux point releases, would you? I can get my news faster by telegram.
Hmm. I submitted this story yesterday, but it was rejected. I'm a little upset that it was accepted when somebody else submitted it. Here was my source, from newsday.com.
This was not cloning. They are using similar technology here, but cloning is embedding the full DNA in an egg, whereas here they only embedded the mother's partial (egg) DNA, then fertilized the egg with the father's sperm.
I guess the next step is to create fetuses with the DNA of all citizens.
Stamp out individuality!
Encourage conformity!
Bring honor to your family which is the entire Chinese population!
It has two heads! And... tentacles!!!!
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
How is this any worse than using egg/sperm donor for fertilization?
eggs of two women and the sperm of one man
This is also known as a "continental breakfast" at the Marriott.
There was a TV show about this: "My Two Dads". It starred Greg Evigan and that ape, or was it Paul Reiser?
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Oh wait, I thought you said 3 headed fetus.
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Give a false sense of individuality!
Encourage moral conformity to an arbitrary religion, despite your individual beliefs!
Bring profit to your company which buys off the entire Amerikan government!
Buy! Consume! Spend! and then (and only then) will you be happy!
DNA is a chemical like any other. THere's nothing magical about it. We can do what we like with it. I don't see the big deal about combining the DNA from three people. We are all already complex recombinations of the DNA of millions of ancestors.
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
Yo Mamas are so ugly that when they look at each other they both turn to stone!
Yo Mamas are so fat that when they have a threesome everybody thinks is a foursome!
Ba dum dum!
There are so many children in the world who have no parents, and these are the lengths to which people are willing to go to have their own biological children?
It's not enough that she can carry a baby to term, it has to be with her own genetic material?
I just don't understand why this is such a great thing. Creating more children for the people who are wealthy enough to pay for this instead of adopting the children that already exist, woo. Pardon me if I'm not excited.
Conversations like:
"Your mama wears Combat boots!"
"Which One - My biological mother #1 or #2? Or the one who raised me?"
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Angry Wife: "Your Mother is a slut!"
husband: "Which one?"
Angry Wife: "They both are!"
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Lawyer reading dead wife's will: "Your Wife left everything to your Mother-in-Law."
Greiving husband: "Which one? Her biological mother #1 or #2, the mother who raised her or her step-mother through her fathers divorce last year?"
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Dr {reading off of a questionare}: "Has either your mother's or father's side of the family had a history of Diabetes, heart disease, or infertility?"
Ailing Patient {with head in hands}: "Oh god, wouldn't I like to know..."
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Besides, just think of what this will do to maternity suits alone!
[Now, I'm off to lift my le... Um, visit... at another place.]
Welcome to a world where they can have tentacle rape scenes in live japanase porn. That is unless the japanese find someway of eating the creature first, they are pretty good about that.
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In cloning they'll take the genetic material (full set, diploid) from a somatic cell and inject it into an egg (having removed the egg's own genetic material [half set, haploid]). They then do some interestingstuff to convince the egg it's been fertilized so it will start dividing.
In this case they're just removing the haploid DNA from a donor egg and replacing it with the haploid DNA from another egg. Then it's pretty much standard IVF techniques
I'm not sure why this is outlawed. On the one hand it could be the reason many (large mammal) clones die prematurely is because of the nuclear transfer process and all the speculation about telomere erosion and the like are red herring. No one much likes the scenario of some parents having to clean up Junior with a sponge mop due to macroscale apoptosis when he reaches puberty.
I haven't heard much about these kind of trials being conducted in other animals, though. It would be useful, as it would allow you to control for a number of things (aforementioned telomere erosion, for example). I'd assume either the results weren't that interesting (I.E. no significant effect on development or mortality) or the laws banning it were worded broadly enough to ban non-human animal testing as well.
Anyone know whether anyone is doing this in animals besides humans?
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Presumably your non existant children will hold simmilar values and from your line an entire race will be borne that sees it your way. oops, maybe not.
The woman who raised you lovingly is your mama. That means, of course, that some people have housekeepers for mamas, but it also includes all grandmas who've taken over parenting, or adoptive mothers. Unfortunately, that also means that many people with genetic mothers don't have mamas.
Get off my launchpad!
I think they may be taking their overpopulation problem's solution in the wrong direction.
--"The perfect example of the man of action is the suicide." - William Carlos Williams
...there would still a 50/50 chance that once born it would be killed because it was born a girl.
I didn't read the BBC version, but here's what New Scientist said. Note the importance of the following:
* None were born, but the researchers say this was due to obstetric complications rather than the fertility technique used, and that it would work in future.
*Some children have already been born with three genetic parents, but the new research has prompted additional controversy because the method used shares a technical step, called nuclear transfer, with cloning procedures. However, the US scientist who developed in animals the technique used by the Chinese researchers says: "It's nothing to do with human cloning."
Just thought these would help clarify, so people don't yell "human cloning should be banned!" as a result.
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