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Anti-Spammers Win Major Court Battle

Brian Bruns writes "Well, the antispammers have won a major battle against EMarketersAmerica.org (now offline, but mirror here). The judge involved with the case has dismissed the case with prejudice, which means that all of the spammers arguments were denied. The win is a big one for the antispam community." It's always good to see my inbox come out on the winning side of a court decision. Sounds like the case was fun to watch as well.

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  1. What didn't help the spammers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Was the lawyer constantly telling the judge he could lengthen his penis by 2-4 inches, and that he had the hottest underage beastality porn anywhere on the net.

  2. Donate to pay defendants' legal fees by gorbachev · · Score: 4, Informative

    This victory is bitter sweet. While the judge did throw the case out completely, he didn't rule that the defendants' (anti-spammers) legal costs should be paid by the plaintiff (spammers).

    You can help by donating to the legal defense fund established by the SpamCon Foundation. The donations are tax deductible.

    Please do donate, if you have any to spare.

    Proletariat of the world, unite to kill spammers

    --
    In Soviet Russia, I ruled you
  3. Legal Defense fund link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
  4. The possible long term consquences by MrLint · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Let hope the spammers learn a very valuable lesson here. *do*not attempt to legitimize your crap, you will end up with discovery proceedings. This will ruin hem, and possibly get them killed. The shady operators they work for dont want to be found the ISPs the contract with dont want to be found. they dont want the systems they hack to be found, they dont want to get nailed for tax evasion. In short.. dont ever stand in front of a train again. Next time you are gonna get plowed down.

  5. Oh no! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Funny

    The penis enlargement pump they sold me worked so well I need the next size up. Where will I get one now? Oh well, I guess I'll use the lost pumping time to take care of that business opportunity in Nigeria ...

    --
    "A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
  6. This is a great one by Kelz · · Score: 3, Funny
    Opt-in permission based email marketers have been blacklisted, harassed and threatened by anti-spammers---legitimate businesses wrongly pushed to the precipice of extinction. We need your help in keeping our industry vital by protecting email marketers.
    Taken straight from the EMA web site... these people must have a combined IQ that pines to be in triple-digits.
  7. Re:A Question by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Insightful
    > The Spamhaus Project says that "90% of spam received by Internet users in North America and Europe is sent by a hard-core group of under 200 spam outfits." Yet these companies/individuals know that their marketing hardly ever works (what's the reply rate of spam? Something like .0001%?). So why do they keep coming to work? Are they idiots? Or just malignant bastards?

    The 200-odd spam kingpins are malignant bastards. They are not idiots.

    > And why do companies keep using spam for advertising?

    The customers of Eddy Marin and the 200-odd spam kingpins are both malignant bastards and idiots.

    If you hire Eddy Marin to spam for you, Eddy Marin makes money whether you make money or not. If you're an idiot and a malignant bastard, you'll hire an Ethikul E-Bidniz Murketeer to "help you get the message out to a 100% confirmed opt-in list of targets, the EEBM will gladly take your money and ruin your reputation (Ford, DaimlerChrysler, Martha Stewart Online).

    So yeah, that's why, even despite a near-zero response rate and the visceral hatred his marketing campaigns bring towards his customers, Eddy Marin gets up in the morning and goes to work.

  8. Re:A Question by schon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So why do they keep coming to work? Are they idiots? Or just malignant bastards?

    Neither - they are con men.

    why do companies keep using spam for advertising?

    Take a look at some of the other replies to post, and you'll see why.. people see lots of spam, so they erroneously conclude that it works (after all, why would there be so much spam if it didn't work, they ask.)

    It's all because spammers are con artists. They convince the stupid people (companies) that they can make money.. the net result is that the spammers get money, the stupid people get hosed, and everybody else gets spam.

    The spammers then find another victim, and it all starts over again.