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Alpha's Going Going Gone

WildCode writes "Get your Alphas now cause HP is releasing the last of the Alphas (the final one expected to be released in 2004), and there will be no more." I was already under the mistaken impression that Alpha was dead, so this story is rather bittersweet for me. Still, as far as architectures go, Alpha will probably be among my favorites. It was once vastly ahead of its time, if not severely cost-prohibitive.

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  1. GPL Problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Hello,

    Consulting for several large companies, I'd always done my work on
    Windows. Recently however, a top online investment firm asked us to do
    some work using Linux. The concept of having access to source code was
    very appealing to us, as we'd be able to modify the kernel to meet our
    exacting standards which we're unable to do with Microsoft's products.

    Although we met several technical challenges along the way
    (specifically, Linux's lack of Token Ring support and the fact that we
    were unable to defrag its ext2 file system), all in all the process
    went smoothly. Everyone was very pleased with Linux, and we were
    considering using it for a great deal of future internal projects.

    So you can imagine our suprise when we were informed by a lawyer that
    we would be required to publish our source code for others to use. It
    was brought to our attention that Linux is copyrighted under something
    called the GPL, or the Gnu Protective License. Part of this license
    states that any changes to the kernel are to be made freely available.
    Unfortunately for us, this meant that the great deal of time and money
    we spent "touching up" Linux to work for this investment firm would
    now be available at no cost to our competitors.

    Furthermore, after reviewing this GPL our lawyers advised us that any
    products compiled with GPL'ed tools - such as gcc - would also have to
    its source code released. This was simply unacceptable.

    Although we had planned for no one outside of this company to ever
    use, let alone see the source code, we were now put in a difficult
    position. We could either give away our hard work, or come up with
    another solution. Although it was tought to do, there really was no
    option: We had to rewrite the code, from scratch, for Windows 2000.

    I think the biggest thing keeping Linux from being truly competitive
    with Microsoft is this GPL. Its draconian requirements virtually
    guarentee that no business will ever be able to use it. After my
    experience with Linux, I won't be recommending it to any of my
    associates. I may reconsider if Linux switches its license to
    something a little more fair, such as Microsoft's "Shared Source".
    Until then its attempts to socialize the software market will insure
    it remains only a bit player.

    Thank you for your time.

    1. Re:GPL Problems by cpuffer_hammer · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Please, DO NOT SPREAD FUD!
      IANAL( and guess you should be getting more knowledgeable lawyers soon ), but:

      - Modifications to Linux's (the kernel) source code are to be openly available if you are to distribute it. For your own use, you already have it :)

      - Code compiled with GCC is as free or as propietary as you want.

      - Code linked against libraries covered by LGPL (GNU's Lesser Public License) can be closed source. You only need to make it open if you link against GPL-only libs.

      - Having software covered by the GPL (except for the Kernel work, none of your code needs to be put under the GPL) does not spoil your chances of making money from it, it just makes you rethink a bit your bussiness model ( read: get paid for services and support not for the program itself )

      Hmm... "Shared Source" fair?? Does M$ Corp have you in their payroll? Go away!

    2. Re:GPL Problems by rnturn · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      As much as I hate feeding trolls, I wanted to thank you for your clueless post. It made my morning.

      ``(specifically, Linux's lack of Token Ring support and the fact that we were unable to defrag its ext2 file system)''

      What's the deal with Window's people always defragging disks. It's an utter waste of time. A day later the disks are fragmented again. Hell, I gave up that fruitless exercise over a dozen years ago. And Linux filesystems don't require defragmentation. At least that's my experience in the 8-9 years I've been running Linux. I've never encountered a filesystem whose performance seemed to be improved by more that a couple of percent following a backup/delete/restore. (One exception was a MUMPS database that had some files scattered across nearly 6000 extents -- a condition caused by a spectacularly uninformed system manager who thought that breaking and reestablishing mirrors (for nightly backups) automatically defragmented disks.) Have you really seen e2fsck report more than a tiny percentage of files being fragmented? Save yourself the time. Unless you like bilking your clients by billing them for some ``defragmentation service''.

      And token ring? The world was giving up on token ring about the same time 8-inch floppies were going by the wayside. If you're looking to increase your consulting firm's revenues and get your client out of the paleolithic age of networking, advise them to begin replacing that and begin using commodity networking gear. Unless, of course, you prefer holding your client(s) back by using a technology that fewer and fewer consulting firms will have any expertise in. Is this your company's way of holding clients captive? And there is token ring support in Linux. If you'd bothered to look. (Hint: check the files under /usr/src/linux*/Documentation/networking.)

      ``So you can imagine our suprise when we were informed by a lawyer that we would be required to publish our source code for others to use.''
      ``Furthermore, after reviewing this GPL our lawyers advised us that any products compiled with GPL'ed tools - such as gcc - would also have to its source code released.''

      The above comments point out a major, major problem: You need to get new lawyers. There is nothing in the GPL that forces you to release source code if you are not distributing the code outside the company as you stated:

      ``Although we had planned for no one outside of this company to ever use, let alone see the source code.''

      Finally, I'd like to thank you for the following:

      ``After my experience with Linux, I won't be recommending it to any of my associates. I may reconsider if Linux switches its license to something a little more fair, such as Microsoft's "Shared Source".''

      Again, thanks. I had a really tough day at work yesterday and was afraid that my spirits would still be down today. But your post made me laugh so hard that now my sides hurt.

      Oh how I wish you'd had the guts to include your name and the name of the so-called consulting company that you work for. That way others would know to keep you off their preferred vendor lists.

      --
      CUR ALLOC 20195.....5804M
  2. Cat Problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you cat fanatics? I've been sitting here on my sofa in front of a cat (a sealpoint siamese) for about 20 minutes now while attempting to get it's attention away from a bug on the floor. 20 minutes. At home, with my labrador cross, which by all standards should be a lot dumber than this cat, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.

    In addition, during this attention seeking attempt, my children's attention is also held by the cat. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even trying to get the remote from my partner fails.

    I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while dealing with other cats, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a cat that fetches as much as it's canine counterpart, despite the cat's faster ambulatory system. My terrier with one ingrown toenail runs consistently faster than this siamese at times, as the cat is often completely asleep. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that the cat is a superior animal.

    Cat addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a cat over other faster, cheaper, more affectionate animals.

    1. Re:Cat Problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Troll Patch: add the word freelance
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      < I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you cat fanatics? I've been sitting here on my sofa in front of a cat (a sealpoint siamese) for about 20 minutes now while attempting to get it's attention away from a bug on the floor. 20 minutes. At home, with my labrador cross, which by all standards should be a lot dumber than this cat, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.

      ---
      > I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you cat fanatics? I've been sitting here on my sofa in front of a freelance cat (a sealpoint siamese) for about 20 minutes now while attempting to get it's attention away from a bug on the floor. 20 minutes. At home, with my labrador cross, which by all standards should be a lot dumber than this cat, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.
    2. Re:Cat Problems by bj8rn · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you cat fanatics? I've been sitting here on my sofa in front of a cat (a sealpoint siamese) for about 20 minutes now while attempting to get it's attention away from a bug on the floor. 20 minutes. At home, with my labrador cross, which by all standards should be a lot dumber than this cat, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.

      You're just bitching because the cat doesn't give a rat's ass about you. Accept it, get over it and quit staring at the cat and go see what's this racket the dogs are causing in the kitchen (they're probably just trying to get your attention).

      Cat addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a cat over other faster, cheaper, more affectionate animals.

      I can't find a pet shop that would sell me a dragon.

      --
      Hell is not other people; it is yourself. - Ludwig Wittgenstein
  3. corepirate nazis prepare for gnu millennium? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    that's right. most of them are going out of the softwar gangster "product" "business" altogether, choosing instead to attempt to perpetuate their felonious LIEf'styles' buy unending frivolous litigation, &/or the touting of their worth less phonIE stock markup payper.

    lookout bullow.

  4. Favorite architecture... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'm more a classical architecture type of person; I like columns, capitals, and friezes.

  5. The dark ages of America are upon us. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The dark ages of America are upon us. Our energy grid is based on lies, supported by lies. Same for the housing industry.

    Where is the innovation? We have an energy infrastructure based on a web of lies, defended and maintained by a hierarchy of liars, that has been largely unchanged for several decades and the powers that be sure like it that way. Research papers of the late 1990's revealed the possibility of building a completely autonomous robotic solar energy grid that could provide energy far in excess of all projected needs. Only the slightest human intervention was necessary to keep the "machine" running. Yet this reasearch received little or no attention outside of
    a few select journals...why? There was no point of sale infrastructure, no easy
    way for the energy barons to translate the new system into their favor, into their existing web of theft.

    We have a housing industry that refuses to modernize or embrace the slightest lessons from the rest of America's manufacturing sectors. Want a house? Be prepared to pay for it the rest of your life, even though it's an order of magnitude less complex than the car in your driveway. The only manufactured housing are little piles of crap. We have materials and manufacturing processes that could crank out beautiful homes, homes that could last forever, yet we stick to the age old method of building homes step by step with skilled tradesmen and expensive, time consuming goverment oversight (permits, etc) every step of the way. If the auto industry worked the same way, you'd have to order your car, get a tradesman to install the engine, have it inspected three times by the government, have another tradesman install the hoses, etc...for every car sold. Absurd...yet it serves an important purpose...keeping you in debt for 20-30 years, keeping countless people employed.

    Open your eyes, see the lies all around you. See how the machine holds you hostage. Think and speak about it, read all the alernative literature possible, especially anything to do with frugal living or alternative energy. These are the people that will take the USA to the next level, but only if enough people demand change so these infrastructures mature and become mainstream.