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Microsoft's Take on iTunes for Windows

Skruffy writes "The Register has an amusing article about Microsoft's reaction to the launch of Apple's iTunes software on Windows. It seems that Microsoft is very keen to warn its users of the dangers of using a service that would restrict them from accessing music from other sources... Oh the irony."

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  1. Re:What I'm afraid of ... by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless they pull an Internet Explorer and give the software away with Windows (even then, the next version of Windows is years away), I don't see how they could steal users away from Apple's service without actually making their service better than Apple's - which would actually be a great thing. Two huge corporations battling to make music services better and cheaper - nice.

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  2. Re:OK... by quigonn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have fewer rights with iTunes than with buying CDs

    Not of you burn them onto a CD and rip them again. And that is the major difference between Apple and Microsoft: Apple provides a legal way to "circumvent" DRM when the user is willing to spend some time to burn a CD and rip it again. That is real fair use, IMHO.

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  3. Re:OK... by EricWright · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...yet with iTMS, you have far MORE rights than you do with any other major online music purchasing site. The whole point is that the masses want a method of buying music without either a) going to the store and dropping change for a physical disc, or b) buying a CD online and waiting 1-7 days for delivery.

    The iTMS restrictions are a) no more than 10 burns of a playlist containing an iTMS track (fine, make a different playlist), b) sharing iTMS tracks with no more than 3 (or is it 5) other computers on your local network, c) no sharing over external networks, d) no direct conversion to another format (gotta burn to disc, then re-rip in another format). What about that is so awful? No, it doesn't allow for wholesale piracy, I mean sharing. Yes, the tracks are in protected AAC/MPEG4 format. How is this better/worse from protected WMA format? Have you looked at the restrictions on tracks from buymusic.com? Many (most? all?) of the other sites restrict your use of the purchased tracks to the machine to which you originally downloaded the tracks. That's it...

    Checking a select few sites:

    napster.com (pressplay.com is a redirect here) requires Windows, requires IE5+, requires WMP7+.

    buymusic.com requires IE5+ and Windows (not using IE, I don't get any further than that requirement page... I'm sure WMP is required).

    iTMS requires iTunes. Now, there is no restriction to Mac only, and an external browser is not needed at all. This seems less restrictive than other sites (fine, bitch all you want about no linux/*BSD/etc. support).

    I do wish the quality was a bit higher, since the price of an full iTMS album is relatively similar to the price of a CD, but it's a trade off. You get (almost) what you want, when you want it, and you have more control over iTMS tracks than any legally downloadable music.

  4. Re:The pot and the kettle are both black. by Silverhammer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Blockquoth the poster:

    Granted, Apple Music downloads are useless to anyone without iTunes (on Windows or Mac) or an iPod. Until I can play them in linux, they're useless to me. And don't tell me to burn everything to a CD and then rip it.

    Burn everything to a CD and then rip it.

    Seriously, it's time to reconsider your expectations. It's an online music store -- the RIAA would not allow it to exist without some form of DRM. So be thankful for the loophole.

  5. Re:OK... by kalidasa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Which is curious, considering the fact that the AAC format is an industry standard, while the WMA format is purely a Microsoft format.

  6. Orlowski thinks Apple is a monopoly by panurge · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Obviously failed economics 101. A monopoly is something which effectively controls the supply of an economic good. Microsoft is a monopoly as regards desktop operating systems, though not as regards servers. Apple does not control the supply of anything. Orlowski does not appear to realise that vertically integrated business != monopoly.

    It's as stupid as calling BMW a monopoly because only BMW makes BMWs.

    Or perhaps Orlowski is thinking that Apple is in a monopoly position as regards the suppliers of software. Actually, because their market share is small, the opposite is the case. They have to provide reasons for suppliers to support them. The fact that some applications may be subsumed by Apple is a fact of life: every manufacturer has to make make or buy decisions all the time. Currently conventional wisdom is that everything is better subcontracted out, but eventually if you go far enough the subcontractors own you.

    Personally, I suspect that the ITMS may be too small to survive: if revenue is around $30 million and none of that is profit, there is no real budget to promote it. But at least it's a try, and Apple should be given full credit for trying.

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  7. Re:Um... by shotfeel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find it pretty interesting that Microsoft would have the gall to make such ridiculous statements.

    Not just ridiculous, outright false.

    If iTunes only works with music from the tTMS, whatever have those Mac people been doing with the program for the last 4(?) years? And I guess those people walking around with iPods have just been listening to static.

  8. Re:Is There an Easy Way to Window Shop at I-Tunes? by cshotton · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm sorry, but not being the sort to trust companies that are admittedly in league with the RIAA...

    This bit of demogoguery is over the top. To say that a company who goes to the trouble to create the first practical, usable on-line music store for digital content, and does so completely in the context of the current laws and business climate we find ourselves stuck with, is "in league with RIAA" is like saying devlopers of WINE are in league with Microsoft or developers of a x86 Linux kernel are in league with Intel. Apple took all the tools they had to work with and made a solution that seems to work for all parties involved. Unless you can propose a more appropriate, successful, and LEGAL alternative, you should go peddle your conspiracies and new world orders elsewhere.

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