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Microsoft Antitrust Compliance Questioned

rocketjam writes "Federal and State regulators overseeing Microsoft's compliance with their antitrust agreement with the government, are questioning whether Windows XP's "Shop for Music Online" feature violates the agreement's terms. Specifically, the feature invokes Microsoft Internet Explorer, even if the user has selected a different web browser as their default browser. A Microsoft representative said they believe they have adhered to the agreement."

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  1. This is a little much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I mean, 4 articles with the Borg icon out of the first 5 on the page? Nothing else going on today??

  2. Re:fix by rizzo420 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    isn't windowsupdate another thing that requires IE? i think that's pretty bad. get your security updates, but use an insecure browser to do it with. makes a lot of sense to me...

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  3. Is this another violation? by erroneus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My default browser under MacOS9 is Mozilla 1.3.1. MSIE does not exist on my Mac. I have, however, installed Outlook Express and MSN Messenger.

    Whenever I click on a link within either of these two programs, an attempt is made to launch MSIE and not the default browser. Of course, nothing happens because both of these programs unsurprisingly launch only MSIE for this function.

    Since this is MacOS, are they allowed to do this kind of thing? I assume "maybe" but if not, where do I submit my complaint?

  4. Re:yes, this is a mshate zone... by rizzo420 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    itunes and napster allow you to use the default browser, which could be mozilla or opera or netscape or even IE. they aren't an alternative to IE, they are an alternative to using microsoft's music thing. microsoft is deceiving windows users into thinking that their default browser is whatever you set as it when it's really only the default browser for non-microsoft software. that's what the problem is.

    not so necessary disclaimer: i am a microsoft windows user, and i was an IE/eudora user until about a week ago when i installed mozilla for both web and email. i do not hate microsoft products, i just hate their ways. i find windows 2000 to be a great OS (no joke here).

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  5. One of the States did set up a site... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    One of the States involved in the antitrust suit did set up a website for reporting suspected compliance violations. I remember reading an article about the site, but damned if I can remember the URL. Anyone remember the address so we can report our violations?

  6. Re:*Yawn* by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Perhaps it is not I who is desensitised, but you who is hypersensitive to something as trivial as this.

    I don't enjoy being forced to use a bug ridden software package that could, should I browse to the wrong site, allow a remote attacker to root my box.

    So yeah, I am "hypersensitive".

    Here's a clue, free of charge: It's your computer. Not MS's, Not the RIAA's, not Apple's and not the MPAA's. Yours. You may do with it what you wish, and if that means allowing MS to tell you what apps you get to use, that's your choice.

    Note, however, that that would not be my choice.

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  7. Re:Mozilla video incompatibilities by Gleef · · Score: 2, Interesting

    SunPin wrote:

    Without voice dictation, I can't move to Linux so if you planned to tell me just that, try offering a suggestion instead.

    Yeah, dictation on Linux is in a pretty sorry state, and I don't see it getting out of that state without still yet more academic development.

    However the latest version of ViaVoice is now available for Mac OS X. That's a serious step up from Windows in stability and system quality.

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  8. They believe they've complied. by jd · · Score: 2, Interesting
    A US General believes Bush was elected by God.


    43% of Americans believe they've been abducted by a UFO.


    Nearly 33% of Americans believe the moon landings were faked.


    Beliefs a funny things, at times. Since they are not statements of fact, but merely statements of thought, the only way they can be "wrong" is if they don't believe what they say they do.


    Beliefs are not facts. Beliefs aren't even knowledge. Microsoft can know, perfectly well, that they're in violation, but believe that they are not. This is entirely possible, and not even unusual in people. That's why I tend to hang out with machines.

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  9. The alternative isn't good either... by Ian+Bicking · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I don't know the current status, but in the past the "Windows Update" link in the start menu has used the default browser. To me, this was clearly a way to punish users who did not select IE as their default browser, because Windows Update would not work with any other browser. So if you made Netscape the default your Windows Update would stop working.

    Maybe Microsoft needs to fix their store so that it is compatible with other browsers, but it only hurts other browsers if Microsoft uses those browsers when the store doesn't support them.

  10. Re:*Yawn* by gazbo · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I wondered if someone would pull me up on that before I wrote it. Please enjoy this excerpt:
    "It" is a troublemaker. You would not believe that grown-up grammarians would argue over "It is I," but such respected fellows as Samuel Johnson, Roy Copperud and the Venerable Fowler have ruminated on the matter. Consider: "It is I who is entitled to Gertie's silver." Or, "It is I who am entitled to the old girl's candlesticks." In reverse gear, "I am it" is clearly better than "I is it." Aarrgh! The folks at Merriam-Webster say the conflict is not resolved, and you are not going to see it resolved in this space.
    Given my interest in grammar, you will almost certainly have to go beyond the conjugation of common verbs in order to catch me out, I'm afraid.