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Broadcast Flag All But Approved

Are We Afraid writes "The FCC is about to approve the broadcast flag for HDTV, according to Reuters. The EFF has been vocal in its disapproval, but the suits appear to be pushing ahead anyway. We may soon need an updated dystopian parable: The Right to Watch."

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  1. Remember the copyright bit in SPDIF? by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    SPDIF (Sony Philips Digital InterFace) has a copyright bit which can be set for audio signals... has that been stopping people?

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    1. Re:Remember the copyright bit in SPDIF? by sl0ppy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      AHRA-92 mandated that "consumer" DATs add copy protection to unprotected sources, but since the content is secured at the source, why would HDTV "recorders" be required to imprint it in original content?


      why wouldn't they? :)

      but seriously, to play devils advocate for a moment, let's think about a scenario:

      television station zzba invested heavily in an initial hdtv rollout. just like the theaters in the area, the station has been hit with economic woes. now, the content providers are mandating that they broadcast with a content flag. being early adopters, their equipment isn't flexible, and simply can't be "re-flashed" to send the new bit.

      they have a choice, get congress to pass a law requiring all consumer devices to set a flag on content that is missing a copyright flag, or force the early adopters to go broke redeploying.

      since we already know that the current administration is very pro big-business, which way do you think they'll lean?

    2. Re:Remember the copyright bit in SPDIF? by 3terrabyte · · Score: 4, Interesting
      "But can you please explain to me what difference the broadcast flag will have on indie filmmakers?",

      "....but there is no mandate for any producer to use the broadcast flag in material they create. If you don't turn it on in your recording, then nothing should stop you from making copies."

      Sounds good for phase 1. Then what happens when someone starts to take out the 'bit', and re-transmit somehow, allowing everyone to watch and copy to their heart's content. I'll tell you what happens, they change the law so that EVERYTHING *MUST* have the bit. And all players must have the bit. And by then hopefully all computer hardware, bios, O/S, & software will have DRM also. And lo and behold it'll cost a minimum of $15,000 to get 'access' to licensing the 'bit'. That $15,000 will be what pushes out you, me & the indies.

      What I just described is a very small jump compared to the other things they're trying to push for now. The bit is going to be bad. If we allow them to do this, they can then close the smaller holes without any problem.

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  2. Bottled Water, Anyone? by tds67 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "Why should anyone in the world buy if it's on the Internet," said Andrew Setos, president of engineering at News Corp.'s Fox Entertainment Group.

    Why should anyone in the world buy bottled water for $1.00 each if they can get water for pennies at home?

  3. Next Up by killmenow · · Score: 4, Interesting
  4. say bye bye to HDTivo by e40 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Look, we know Hollywood hates TiVo. OK, more like terrified of it. Seems like this will be one way to kill a TiVo (or other similar device) foray into HDTV.

    Since I have DirecTV, I'm not too worried, seeing as I got the TiVo from them... but things change...

    1. Re:say bye bye to HDTivo by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 2, Interesting


      I think it's more likely to kill HD. For me, at least. Neither HD nor TiVo has achieved anything like "broad market penetration" so it's tough to determine who will win that battle. Essentially, it's a decision between convenience vs. quality--but the TiVo works with things out now, whereas HD requires new gear.

      My bet's on TiVo.

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  5. Re:dystopian, yada yada by agentk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Azghoul wrote:

    There has, and always will be, alternatives.

    True, but how accessible will the alternatives be?

    What if the law mandated that you needed a government license to publish books? How much choice would you have for your hammock reading material? (this is exactly how it worked in Britain in the 17th and 18th centuries) Obviously a bit more extreme than the broadcast flag, but not unrelated.

    Personally, I don't care that much about TV, nevermind "HDTV". I think we need to really care when similar controls start changing the openness of the net, though.

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  6. Here's my idea by rhadamanthus · · Score: 2, Interesting
    DON'T BUY AN HDTV!


    Heck, don't watch TV, movies, etc too. If you cannot get what you want out of it (i.e., fair use) don't buy it. Tell everyone in Hollywood to go f*ck themselves.

    --rhad, who is sick of this shit

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  7. Just say no. by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    These broadcast flags may be a Bad Thing. But, if we all watch less TV, the world may be a better place.

    More time to learn, to play, to volunteer, to socialise.

    Maybe, parents will actually raise their children, take care of their households, and improve the lives of their loved-ones.

    People will have the time to learn about the things their government is doing, how the politicians who represent them are acting, what the issues really are, and how to change things for the better.

    Or not. I could just be dreaming.

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  8. Over the air only? by bert33 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When the first article about this was posted it mentionned that the flag would be used for over the air broadcasts only because "people already paid for cable" or something. I don't see this in the current article. If this affects only HD over-the-air broadcasts I doubt many people will notice the difference. However, if it affects all cable, dish and OtA digital broadcasts it will definitely hurt HD adoption. Finally, my HDTV accepts only DVI and component inputs and uses an external decoder. If the info has to be sent to my TV unencoded how hard can it be to intercept that signal?

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  9. Re:FCC Disabling VCRs in 2006 by Chuck+Milam · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Analog transmission stops in 2006."

    No. Analog transmission is scheduled to stop in 2006, but with such a heavy level of investment in analog technology--both at the transmitter (content provider) and receiver (content consumer) ends, I highly doubt the cut-over to all digital will occur on schedule.

    I mean, seriously, when it the last time you saw a technical conversion of this size and scope actually occur on schedule?

    I also expect that when Joe Six-Packs T.V. stops working, the general populace might just get a might bit fired up over this whole issue and start calling for the folks in Washington's heads.

  10. DTV Internet distribution is already very unlikely by TiggsPanther · · Score: 2, Interesting
    So the broadcast flag will stop a football fan from emailing a 34 gig Superbowl DTV attachment to his cousin overseas? Those entertainment folks must have some awesome ISP support to think that the average citizen is capable of such feats.

    Nope. But the "average citizen" is capable of such stupidity.

    There are still people out there who don't understand that files take up space/bandwidth. And will create high-quality images and wonder why they wobn't fit on a floppy disk.
    (I only wish I was joking!)

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  11. A Good Thing by sirbone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hopefully this will irritate enough people that they will revolt against the TV. Then they will be forced to *gasp* enjoy outdoor activities like excercise or hiking through parks, or worse yet, forced to read books such as "Lord of the Rings" or "The Fountainhead"!

    Seriously, though, you do not have a divine right to receive television signals in the format you demand. If broadcasters want to encrypt signals so they only work with DRM enabled TVs then so be it. (Though you do have a right to hack the TV you own and manufacturers have a right to make their TV however they want, regardless of what government says, as per the most basic principle of property rights upon which all rights are implemented.) So stop whining about how this will cut into your ability to see every episode of "Surviver" reality TV and start opening your mind to real reality.

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  12. Re:dystopian, yada yada by CoolToddHunter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You bring up a very good point. "Right" is a little nebulous here, as it requires a television to receive the broadcast, and I don't think that many people would argue that owning a television is a right.

    The broadcasters are granted the "right" to broadcast over a regulated public medium for the common good. So the question becomes, does the broadcast flag work for that common good? As television is used largely for entertainment, I think the broadcast flag will hold little harm. I for one will not die if I cannot record "Friends". But again, this must be guarded against to prevent abuse that would control the flow of important information, or, as stated by another poster, raise the barrier to entry for small broadcasters too high (as if it wasn't high enough).

    It seems that also at issue here is whether the broadcast reciever has any rights over the broadcast. Of course, the famous Sony case says that at least we have the right to time-shift the broadcast. As the broadcast flag prevents us from time-shifting, this seems clearly illegal.

    I guess I'm still conflicted. But then again, illegal is illegal...

  13. Re:Open Letter to the FCC Commissioners by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sadly, you have no idea what you're talking about.

    Fair use is a very broad doctrine. It _might_ apply to literally any kind of infringement whatsoever. No one factor -- such as whether a use is a literal copy or transformative -- controls the entire analysis.

    Instead, each and every time that the fair use analysis is conducted, all four factors of the fair use test (see 17 USC 107) must be considered.

    The example that immediately springs to mind is if someone made a high-quality -- let's say exact copy -- of a work for noncommercial educational or research purposes.

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