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Broadcast Flag All But Approved

Are We Afraid writes "The FCC is about to approve the broadcast flag for HDTV, according to Reuters. The EFF has been vocal in its disapproval, but the suits appear to be pushing ahead anyway. We may soon need an updated dystopian parable: The Right to Watch."

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  1. Re:Remember the copyright bit in SPDIF? by sl0ppy · · Score: 5, Informative

    i can tell you that as a musician, the copyright bit on the personal dat recorder i purchased did a pretty good job of stopping me.

    well, until i spent $1500 more on a professional dat recorder, that didn't contain it.

    it's ridiculous. i wasn't even allowed to copy my own recordings. it's not like dat is a hotbed of piracy, i only recall one riaa album *ever* released to dat.

    it's nice to see bogus legislature used to stop useful technology from taking hold, and the common man from being able to compete with those already in power.

  2. Open Letter to the FCC Commissioners by Hanashi · · Score: 5, Informative
    [This is the text of the letter I faxed to the FCC yesterday. Please feel free to copy it and send it yourself if you like, or visit the EFF's Action Center and use their spiffy online form. They haven't voted yet; it's not too late!]

    Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein
    Federal Communications Commission
    445 12th Street, NW
    Washington, D.C. 20554

    Dear Jonathan Adelstein,

    Commissioner Kevin J. Martin
    Federal Communications Commission
    445 12th Street, NW
    Washington, D.C. 20554

    Dear Kevin Martin,

    Commissioner Michael J. Copps
    Federal Communications Commission
    445 12th Street, NW
    Washington, D.C. 20554

    Dear Michael Copps,

    Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy
    Federal Communications Commission
    445 12th Street, NW
    Washington, D.C. 20554

    Dear Kathleen Abernathy,

    Chairman Michael K. Powell
    Federal Communications Commission
    445 12th Street, NW
    Washington, D.C. 20554

    Dear Michael Powell,

    Please allow me to take a few moments of your time in order to express my opposition to the proposed adoption of the "broadcast flag" for digital televisions. I strongly believe that this misuse of technology will do little but stifle legitimate innovation (including slowing the adoption of digital television) and infringe on the consumer's fair-use rights.

    One of the most serious problems with the "broadcast flag" proposal is that it places control over marketplace innovation in the hands of the MPAA, an organization with no vested interest in innovation. In fact, the MPAA can be viewed as having more of an interest in the LACK of innovation, in that they are rooted firmly in the current technology and content distribution model. Allowing the MPAA to veto new features in digital television equipment is like giving organized crime the power to veto new wiretap laws. As a business organization, the MPAA will always act in the interest of it's members, and not the public. The result is that marketplace innovation will suffer, and consumers will have to make do with fewer features and no way to exercise their legally protected fair-use rights.

    In conclusion, I urge to you avoid "broadcast flag" technology at all costs. It is a system tailor-made to appeal to the Hollywood content providers, striving to protect their distribution-based business model in the face of new technologies. Rather than adapt to the realities of the current situation, they choose to adapt the current situation to that which they desire to be reality. This situation is unworkable, in that it places unreasonable restrictions on both consumer electronics manufacturers and the consumers themselves. Please do not adopt the "broadcast flag" technology. It benefits only the MPAA, and abridges the rights of consumers.

    Thank you for your time and attention to this matter.

    Sincerely,
    YOUR SIG HERE

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    1. Re:Open Letter to the FCC Commissioners by Hanashi · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, I don't have the fax number. One of the nice things about the EFF Action Center is that there is a nice little "email, fax or print" selector at the end of the form. I sent this through that form, and asked it to fax my letter. I highly recommend this form, since faxes are regarded somewhat more highly than email.

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  3. Bottled Water, Anyone? by tds67 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "Why should anyone in the world buy if it's on the Internet," said Andrew Setos, president of engineering at News Corp.'s Fox Entertainment Group.

    Why should anyone in the world buy bottled water for $1.00 each if they can get water for pennies at home?

  4. Next Up by killmenow · · Score: 4, Interesting
  5. That's just semantics... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The last Slashdot article on this topic had a post that contained the various lengths of time within which you could view a HDTV recording. After "forever" the next longest length of time was "one week".

    One measly week.

    Well, one week might be fine if you record something becasue you know you're going out for the night, but what the hell do you do if you're going away on a two-week vacation? What choice do you have except to miss out?

    Can you imagine missing the last two weeks of 24, The West Wing, ER or whatever you're hooked on because some silly timestamped restriction is set to one week (or less)?

    How do you tell your young kids that the show that you promised they could watch when they got back home from a long car journey to visit the grandparents can't be watched anymore because you exceeded the time limit? Ever tried explaining silly things like that to a screaming three year old?

    Let's face it, for a lot of people, life is more hectic now than it was ten years ago. Ten years from now, it'll probably be more hectic still. What good is a timeshifting device like a VCR or a PVR if you can't timeshift with it?

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  6. say bye bye to HDTivo by e40 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Look, we know Hollywood hates TiVo. OK, more like terrified of it. Seems like this will be one way to kill a TiVo (or other similar device) foray into HDTV.

    Since I have DirecTV, I'm not too worried, seeing as I got the TiVo from them... but things change...

  7. pathetic by retards · · Score: 4, Insightful

    News like this will be very funny in 20 years. Incredible fuss over something as boring as simple push-entertainment.

    Wake up! TV is dead. Or will be quite soon. I don't give a damn if I can watch sit-coms in high definition in 5 years and not record. I want to kill people online in high-res. I want to walk on other planets and meet interesting people in high-res.

    Guess what? I already can! So good luck to broadcast technology (the name kinda says it all). A "don't copy" flag will not save you.

  8. Re:dystopian, yada yada by Davak · · Score: 4, Informative

    Or, you could just attack this the American way... and bitch about it!

    Chairman Michael K. Powell: mpowell@fcc.gov
    Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy: kabernat@fcc.gov
    Commissioner Michael J. Copps: mcopps@fcc.gov
    Commissioner Kevin J. Martin: kjmweb@fcc.gov
    Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein: jadelste@fcc.gov

    General information, inquiries & complaints: fccinfo@fcc.gov
    Freedom of Information Act requests: FOIA@fcc.gov
    Comments on FCC Internet services: webmaster@fcc.gov
    Elections & political candidate matters: campaignlaw@fcc.gov

    1-888-225-5322 (1-888-CALL FCC) Voice: toll-free
    1-888-835-5322 (1-888-TELL FCC) TTY: toll-free
    (202) 418-2555 TTY: toll
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  9. Re:Remember the copyright bit in SPDIF? by captaineo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The more I think about it the more I agree this is [i]exactly[/i] what the broadcast flag is about. It's not about stopping piracy*. It's about stopping low-budget Mac-wielding filmmakers from threatening Hollywood... Amazing consumer-level media tools do no good if they can't record anything. *I love how the article positions the broadcast flag as a "magic bullet" against internet piracy. As if one bit is going to stop anyone from doing anything...

  10. Just say no. by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    These broadcast flags may be a Bad Thing. But, if we all watch less TV, the world may be a better place.

    More time to learn, to play, to volunteer, to socialise.

    Maybe, parents will actually raise their children, take care of their households, and improve the lives of their loved-ones.

    People will have the time to learn about the things their government is doing, how the politicians who represent them are acting, what the issues really are, and how to change things for the better.

    Or not. I could just be dreaming.

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  11. Correcting the poster... by Masem · · Score: 4, Informative

    HDTV is NOT the same as digital television. HDTV is High Definition TV, which is where your ultra-large plasma TV will display in all it's beauty and can be recieved with standard over-the-air signals without the need of digital TV, as it's already there now (While I think the FCC is interesting in promoting HDTV, it's not a mandate yet). DTV is digital TV, and that's the transferring of everything, including the mandated shutdown of analog-out from broadcast towers, by 2006, though most likely this will go even later. And if you read carefully, and look at older issues, you will be able to make at least one copy for personal use of any non-premium/PPV show on the network, at least, with unlimited duplication of standard over-the-air broadcasts. This has been voted by the FCC back in July/August at some point.

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  12. FCC Disabling VCRs in 2006 by Effugas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Analog transmission stops in 2006.

    Anything that lets VCRs work will have to respect the broadcast flag (i.e. will have to fail).

    Nothing will air with the broadcast flag disabled. This includes news.

    Ergo, it seems perfectly reasonable to claim VCR's are being effectively banned between the next two presidential elections.

    --Dan

    1. Re:FCC Disabling VCRs in 2006 by CyberGarp · · Score: 5, Informative

      Analog transmission stops in 2006.

      The US's metric conversion act of 1975 stated that the US would be fully converted to metric by 1992. Right.

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  13. Re:Remember the copyright bit in SPDIF? by 3terrabyte · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "But can you please explain to me what difference the broadcast flag will have on indie filmmakers?",

    "....but there is no mandate for any producer to use the broadcast flag in material they create. If you don't turn it on in your recording, then nothing should stop you from making copies."

    Sounds good for phase 1. Then what happens when someone starts to take out the 'bit', and re-transmit somehow, allowing everyone to watch and copy to their heart's content. I'll tell you what happens, they change the law so that EVERYTHING *MUST* have the bit. And all players must have the bit. And by then hopefully all computer hardware, bios, O/S, & software will have DRM also. And lo and behold it'll cost a minimum of $15,000 to get 'access' to licensing the 'bit'. That $15,000 will be what pushes out you, me & the indies.

    What I just described is a very small jump compared to the other things they're trying to push for now. The bit is going to be bad. If we allow them to do this, they can then close the smaller holes without any problem.

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  14. Vibrating my airwaves by Halo- · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What I don't understand is why the industry thinks it can "broadcast" a signal through the public airwaves and maintain this level of control. If I get a permit and hold a parade down a residential street, don't the people in the houses along the route have the right to record the sights and sounds which can be seen and heard from their own property? Certainly they don't have the right to sell sheet music derivied from listening to the performance, but by the virtue of the performance being "public" some rights should be lost.

    I don't have an issue with a "flag" on a signal sent over a privately owned and funded cable, but the airwaves are different. If they won't let me do what I wish with a signal with enters my property, why can't I tell them not to trespass? (I sound like a militia member here....)

    The broadcasting industry wants the right to send a signal into people's property without consent and then they want to place restrictions on what can be done with it?

  15. Easy Way to Comment by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Electronic Frontier Foundation's (EFF) Action Center has a very easy to use form for sending a letter to the appropriate folks.

    Please take a minute to fill out the form and submit. If you're a member, you need only enter your e-mail address, another great reason to join the EFF.

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  16. no by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 4, Informative
    I mean, we COULD actually just go outside, sit in a hammock and read a book, couldn't we?

    Not when all books are electronic, and you're only allowed one reading of a book.

    So, perhaps, you COULD go outside with your e-reader, if the wireless authentication mechanism works, and read an e-book in your hammock.

    Of course, we (the people) could create all our own entertainment, if all the tools for doing so aren't considered "copyright circumvention devices." Want to write a book? You'll need an e-reader writing license, and all the authorship slots are currently full. Paper is illegal, because it allows easy recording of potentially infringing information.

    That may sound insane, but my point is that our rights are being eroded on multiple fronts, specifically, corporate control and legislation.

    Honestly, I don't think it will be as bad as some people think, but I imagine it will get Pretty Bad(TM).

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  17. Re:dystopian, yada yada by gfxguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One could argue that the public use of the airwaves, granted to broadcasters on our behalf, gives us the "right to watch".

    If not, then I should have the right to broadcast whatever I want at the same frequency, no?

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  18. Re:Remember the copyright bit in SPDIF? by aborchers · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So basically what you're telling me is not that I'm missing something about the broadcast flag but the slippery slope argument that it's a foot in the door for those evil thought control media corporations that own the Congress. I see.

    Dang, and I thought my tinfoil hat was tight... :-)

    How do you reconcile the fact that hardware/software vendors and consumer groups with an interest in innovating technologies are also large contributors to political campaigns? This is a big complicated issue, and the fact that it's taken this long to get this "mandate" tells me that it's a long way from over. There are just too many diverse interests in the mix.

    I'm very worried about technological mandates, and I don't like the broadcast flag because I think it puts unnecessary inhibitions in the path of users, but I think your conclusion here is a little tenuous and contrary to pretty much all of recent consumer, technological, legislative, and judicial history.

    For myself, if I can't get the use I want out of a device or content, then it's irrelevant because I just won't buy the shit. DVX comes to mind as a perfect example of how consumers voted with their wallets to give a big FU to an overly restrictive technology.

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  19. A little more seriously, folks... by dpilot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We keep talking about Joe SixPak and what HE cares about, and the fact that he DOESN'T care about geek issues.

    Guess what? Right now DRM, broadcast flags, and the like are geek issues. Pretty soon they're going to become Joe SixPak issues, about the time he finds out that he can't do the things he used to be able to do.

    Our challenge is to be prepared, and guide Joe into pushing for the Right Things as he gets incensed at his legislators. No doubt the Dark Side will also have some proposals to attempt to placate Joe and maintain Profit. If we're thoughtful and lucky, we can guide the course of events, soon.

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