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Ohio State SETI Wow Signal Revisited and Debunked

An anonymous reader writes "SETI's famous 1977 'Wow' signal has been discredited in the Astrophysical Journal, using the University of Tasmania Hobart 26 m radio telescope to search for intermittent and possibly periodic emissions at the 'Wow' locale. Of the many 'maybes' that SETI has turned up in its four-decade history, none is better known than the brief, powerful one that was discovered in August, 1977, in Columbus, Ohio. Marked by the signal's rise from zero, to '30-sigma' over background noise, and back to zero in 37 seconds, the famous Wow signal was found as part of a long-running sky survey conducted with Ohio State University's 'Big Ear' radio telescope. To quote from their article in The Astrophysical Journal, Robert Gray and Simon Ellingsen, of Australia's University of Tasmania, 'no signals resembling the Ohio State Wow were detected...' So until and unless the cosmic beep measured in Ohio is found again, the 'Wow' signal will remain a 'What' signal."

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  1. How does this debunk anything by shaka999 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So it went off the air...big deal. Maybe the little green men just left orbit....geesh.

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    One should not theorize before one has data. -Sherlock Holmes-
  2. after careful inspection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    i have determined the "Wow" signal to mean "First Post"

    this may actually be true. "Wow" was the first useful signal SETI received.

  3. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've recently discredited people who claim there used to be a TV chanel 66 broadcasting in my area. I fliped my TV to 66, and there was no picture, therefore there was obviously never any such chanel.

  4. WoW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's amazing how much fun you can have with a weather baloon and a radio transmitter.
    Next time I'll send prime numbers in base 14.

  5. Discredited? by Oddly_Drac · · Score: 5, Informative

    ""SETI's famous 1977 'Wow' signal has been discredited in the Astrophysical Journal, using the University of Tasmania Hobart 26 m radio telescope to search for intermittent and possibly periodic emissions at the 'Wow' locale."

    Are submitters reading articles? There was no discrediting of the 'Wow' signal, just an indicator that they couldn't find it again.

    Discrediting is removal of importance. Discrediting is when a national leader claims a 45 minute launch capability for a middle-eastern nation that turns out to have nothing of the sort.

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    Oddly Draconis
    Too cynical to live, too stubborn to die.
    1. Re:Discredited? by TwistedGreen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Exactly.
      I don't see how you can call 'not finding anything similar' discredition.
      Discrediting something like that would happen if they DID find something similar, and someow deduced that it DIDN'T originate from intelligent life.

      But not finding something is no proof of its nonexistence. It still happened, and we still don't know what it was.

      Oh, and the article says the "Wow" signal spanned 72 seconds, not 37 seconds.

      I guess it's best not to even read the writeups anymore.

  6. Debunked my ass by kalidasa · · Score: 4, Informative

    The work the scientists of this study have done is important and valuable, but don't overplay it: it merely limits the possibilities of what the Wow signal was a bit more than was previously thought. After all, there are no signals that have ever been transmitted/emitted from Earth that would have met the periodicity/duration criteria built into this test.

    We conclude that the Wow was not due to a source within our flux density limits and repeating more often than every 14 hr, although the possibility of a longer period or nonperiodic source cannot be ruled out.

    In other words, what they proved is that the Wow signal was not an intententional interstellar beacon, or if it was such a beacon, it is now off the air: whatever the Wow signal was, it wasn't aliens sending a galactic hailing signal, or if it was, it is on a longer period than 14 hours, or was shut off in the years between the original Wow signal's emission and the date of current signals from that location.

  7. "Big Ear" telescope and Perkins Observatory by srstoneb · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have a vested, sentimental interest in these places so I'm going to plug them:

    The Big Ear telescope, operated by Ohio State University, was built on the grounds of Perkins Observatory, between Columbus and the town of Delaware. Delaware is the location of my alma mater, Ohio Wesleyan University, which owns and operates Perkins as a public outreach center. (OSU used to have some financial involvement, but pulled out a few years ago.) In other words, Perkins is no longer a research observatory: it is entirely dedicated to educating the public about astronomy and allowing people to look through their telescopes. (In other words, it's awesome.)

    For a couple years after Big Ear had stopped being used it just stood there on the property. I remember taking a walk around the grounds in 1998 with a friend, peaking in the windows of the little building with the control room, filled with junk. It was sort of sad to see it so neglected. Even worse, the land on which it sat had been sold by my school to the neighboring golf course. We actually ran into a golfer while we were there, and he took the time to tell us how much he wished they would tear the telescope down so they could extend the driving range. And not too long afterwards, it happened. Big Ear is gone.

    There's some really great stories to tell about Hiram Perkins, too, but I don't want to ramble on too long... The short version: Perkins Obs. was the second observatory he built, and at the time it was completed, it housed the third largest telescope in the world. That telescope, now with an even bigger mirror, lives at Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, but was still owned by Ohio Wesleyan until around the time I graduated (1998) when OWU sold it completely to Lowell. It's now operated jointly by Lowell and Boston University, which happens to be where I went after OWU. I took two trips out there to use it before I got my masters in astronomy and left BU to come back to Ohio.

    Here's a few links to entertain you:

    If you live anywhere near Columbus, I highly recommend visiting Perkins sometime. They have great facilities and a fantastic staff. It's a great way to spend an evening.

  8. Meanwhile, at the Wow location... by Dr.+Photo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Vorbak: Gleebok, quit leaning on the "transmit" button... they'll hear you!
    Gleebok: Yipes!

    [At this point, their civilization is wiped out by a pod of radio-hating space-slugs. Who then turn their attention on the last remaining radio-transmitting civilization in the galaxy...]

  9. matrix-esq by ee_moss · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did anyone else notice that the Wow Signal looks strangely like the Matrix?

    That's plain creepy, if you ask me.