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SCO Selective About Linux Licensees

cdunworth writes "According to the IDG news wire, SCO is now telling the vast hoardes of willing new Linux licensees that, unless you are a Fortune 1000 company, you can't buy a Linux license. Not yet. Why the delay? In return for your $699 payment, they don't have to send you anything more than a piece of paper." At least home users of Linux can take solace in knowing that they don't have to pay up yet. It doesn't always pay to have deep pockets.

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  1. This is getting ridiculous by Sir+Haxalot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In return for your $699 payment, they don't have to send you anything more than a piece of paper
    Do SCO really think people will pay this? Or do they have a 'long term strategy plan'?

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    1. Re:This is getting ridiculous by ansak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except that people ARE ponying up to buy shares (and float loans) at these ridiculous prices. Who says the market is intelligent?

      Or to put it another way: if you understand the technical issues, you probably haven't spent enough time on the economic ones to see the value of the bet the way the economists do. Conversely, if you understand the economics, you probably haven't spent the necessary time to grok the technical issues enough.

      Sounds like a great opportunity for a scam artist (SCO) to play off both sides (geeks and investors) against the middle and walk away (Hey! How could we know the court would find against us?).

      cheers...ank

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  2. Solace by Our+Man+In+Redmond · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At least home users of Linux can take solace in knowing that they don't have to pay up yet.

    Personally I'm taking solace in knowing that I don't have to pay up, ever.

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  3. Extortion by Dracolytch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is just further evidence that SCO's plan is one of legal extortion, instead of claiming the technology. What's interesting is that they're trying to scare these big-dollar companies who'd rather just toss over a few thousand dollars than to bother their legal department with it. Smaller companies, such as the one I work for, would have a hard time coming up with that capital, and may be better off challenging SCOs claims in court in order to save themselves from a major financial hit. ~D

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  4. Well thought out plan by praxis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds to me like SCO has a really well thought out plan. Announce licenses. Announce invoices. Respond with confusion when people call to purchase said licenses. Announce price increase. Announce balk on invoices. Annouce price increase time extension. Announce only Fortune 1000 can participate.

    Their plan is simply announcements to pump their stock, because otherwise they would have though through this license deal before hand, and shown us the code. But we knew that already.

  5. Fortune 1000 can't buy license either by penguin7of9 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Linux is distributed under the GPL. The GPL does not permit redistribution if it requires a license (to discourage just the kind of sleazy behavior SCO is engaging in). So, if SCO's claim is valid, then there is no point in licensing Linux because they won't be able to get any updated versions anway, not from SCO, not from RedHat, not from anybody. And if SCO's claim is not valid, then there is no point in paying them any money. In short, you can't really buy a license for Linux: either it's free or you can't use it at all.

    1. Re:Fortune 1000 can't buy license either by linuxbikr · · Score: 3, Insightful
      If SCO actually manages to sell one license to a Fortune 1000 company and the name of that company comes out, I would not be surprised to hear about the FSF knocking on that company's doorstep to have their head counsel explain the terms of the GPL to them. The mere act of SCO selling the license violates the GPL immediately for BOTH SCO AND THE FORTUNE 1000 company! SCO cannot limit the rights of the Fortune 1000 company and prevent them from redistribution of the kernel so if the Fortune 1000 company was a Linux reseller/vendor/supplier, etc, then they are f*cked too!

      I can see a countersuit coming along real fast with the FSF's backing. I don't necessarily agree with RMS's leanings but I do respect the license and the FSF in general and I can see them going after SCO once they had a blatant violation of the GPL handed them by SCO.

      Can you imagine what will happen to SCO (assuming there is anything left of them when this is all said and done) if it comes out in the IBM/Red Hat trials that their Linux Kernel Personality (LKP) code contains GPL code? It's one thing to taunt a shark from the beach with a scrape on your palm, quite another to jump in the water with slit wrists. They'll get ripped apart.

      Plus, then there's the fun of all the investor lawsuits when SCO's stock crashes through the floor.

      SCO is in the wrong business. You can't pay for this type of entertainment! SCO Improv Amateur Night anyone? :)

  6. Small and Medium business owners == Idiots? by DaveJay · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, according to Tony Lawrence, owner of A.P. Lawrence, a consulting firm that is probably ALSO a small or medium-sized business.

    From the article, referring to small and medium-sized business owners:

    "They don't necessarily know whether they have SCO or Linux. The only time they care about their computer is when it crashes."

    Show of hands: who believes that CEOs of fortune 500 companies know the details of their hardware and software infrastructure better than small and medium-sized business owners?

    Okay, Tony, put your hand down.

    Show of hands: who believes that CEOs of fortune 500 companies only give a rat's ass when their computer crashes, that small business owners are highly aware of their hardware and software infrastructure because they have a smaller staff and a higher sensitivity to the cost and maintenance to such infrastructure, and that medium-sized business owners fall into both groups?

    Okay, everyone else put your hands down. One more.

    Show of hands: who believes that Tony's business probably runs on pirated Microsoft products?

  7. Separate the wheat from the chaff by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Makes sense to me. SCO is playing the lottery here, and hoping one of the tickets is a winner.

    Why go after Joe Consumer? SCO knows their odds of even finding private citizens using Linux are next to zero. Private citizens hardly ever get busted using a pirated copy of Windows, and Redmond has cash to burn to go looking for them. And even if they were to nail a few guys, so what? They're looking for a big payoff here, not nickel-and-dime end users.

    But Fortune 1000 companies, ah! Big bucks. They're hoping to intimidate some huge company with the threat of audits and huge legal expenses vs. the relatively low cost of a site license.

    And they know they only have a limited time to try their horseshit before some judge somewhere finally makes them show the "you can't see it yet" infringing code, and that'll be game over when it happens. So they're in a hurry - no time for small potatoes.

    So please, don't bother SCO unless you have obscene piles of cash lying around and a panicky board of directors!

    Weaselmancer

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  8. Re:My Guess by canajin56 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm no lawyer, but the fact that you have "convinced" somebody of something doesn't mean it is any more credible.

    Does the fact that lots of people bought shares from those scam artists selling plots of the Moon and Mars lend their claim that "International law says no country can claim celestial bodies...therefore, since I am not a country, I can and do. Shotty Mars!" any credibility? Nope

    People bought the shares because they were cheap...and if it WAS credible, it would be an EXCELLENT investment, since the price would go up when we start colonizing. Similarly, Fortune 1000 companies think it is relativly cheap to proff themselves against even the remote possibility of a billion dollar lawsuit like IBM is getting. Even if they think the claims are rediculous, a cost-benifit analysis probably shows they shouldn't really take the risk...and the shareholders will insist.

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  9. If you're a Fortune 1000 company... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 3, Insightful

    $699 is probably less than you pay your legal department for an hour of sitting around on retainer. Thus, it starts making more sense to just pay SCO this one time to get them to shut up and go away.

    The question: "Which is less: the number of processors in your enterprise, or the number of legal man-hours it'd take to fight of a SCO lawsuit?" becomes relevant.

    Of course, once SCO starts getting companies to pay up, then it sets an established precedent which they can use to bully the small fry and extract the money from them.

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