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Microsoft Raises Security Game, Notes Shortcomings Elsewhere

LMCBoy writes "Steve Ballmer recently told an industry conference that Microsoft software is more secure than Linux. PJ at Groklaw has a nice, thorough analysis of this dubious claim. She points out that not only are there vastly more Microsoft exploits reported, but that the exploits tend to be much more severe, involving remote administrator access." In related news, mhesseltine writes "According to an article from the Washington Post, in an unusually ironic twist, Microsoft has started talking smack about their own products, instead of those of their competitors. Bill Gates said of Office 'it's too hard to find things in e-mail' and described some features of Word as 'clunky.'"

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  1. Article Text ( slashdotting in effect ) by grasshoppa · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wednesday, October 22 2003 @ 06:44 AM EDT

    You know I couldn't resist covering this story. Microsoft's Steve Ballmer picked up his glove and slapped Linux across the face in a speech given at an industry conference thrown by...who else, Gartner?

    In his speech, he said some peculiar things about security:

    "Ballmer ... disputed the notion that open-source code is more secure than Windows. 'The data doesn't jibe with that. In the first 150 days after the release of Windows 2000, there were 17 critical vulnerabilities. For Windows Server 2003 there were four. For Red Hat (Linux) 6, they were five to ten times higher,' he said.

    "'The vulnerabilities are there. The fact that someone in China in the middle of the night patched it--there is nothing that says integrity will come out of that process. We have a process that will lead to sustainable level of quality. Not saying we are the cat's meow here--I'm saying it is absolutely not good reasoning to think you will get better quality out of Linux.'"

    Ballmer's being a naughty boy again. China indeed. "In the middle of the night." Trying to frighten the children with overtones. And playing with numbers. What year is it again? Red Hat 6? Pardon me for pointing it out, but they are up to 9 now. He's choosing a 150-day period from back in the day -- and I wonder how long it took to pick the best segment of time to use -- and using that for comparison? There is a lot that can be said about this, but it's not really necessary to do any research on this sad subject, I don't think. Everyone on a Windows box just went through the worst summer and fall of security issues of all time. They already know he's just ...well, what would be the precise word here? You hate to say lying. It's so cold.

    However, let's do a little research, just for fun.

    Judge for yourself which operating system is more vulnerable to security problems by going down the list on CERT's Incident Notes page. It goes back to 1998. And here is their Current Activity page. It's almost all Microsoft issues. Here's their Vulnerabilities Notes page. It's all Microsoft, except for one, which isn't Linux. Here is their most recent quarterly summary. And after you look at all the data, what do you think now? Was Mr. Ballmer accurate? The only way I could find Linux prominently on any list was to type it into the Customized Search engine by itself on this page , and then when you get to the list, it's a list for all vulnerabilities of all the distributions of Linux, not just Red Hat. I couldn't find anything equivalent to Microsoft announcing a vulnerability and then saying there was no patch and you should just shut that particular functionality down. Ballmer said there were 17 critical vulnerabilities in Windows 2000 in the 150-day period and that Red Hat had considerably more. But look at the list: it shows only 16 vulnerabilities for all flavors of Linux for the entire year of 2000. CERT only lists the big ones, but Ballmer did say "critical". It makes you wonder where he got his numbers from or how he defines "critical".

    Funny he would choose such an old time period, don't you think, for his comparison? Maybe it's because looking at July through October of this year would be devastating? I see only two Linux vulnerabilities on the list for that time period, both buffer overflow vulnerabilities, so evidently there has been considerable improvement on the Linux side.

    Look at what could happen to you on a Windows box in the first two weeks of September 2003, though, just using a handful of the many recent vulnerabilities here and here and here and here and here and here and here. I didn't include July and August or October or the rest of September, out of kindness. Now, what Mr. Ballmer needs to do is show me anything like that kind of news coverage of security vulnerabilities in GNU/Linux, for any two week period. And speaking of critical, look at what the results could be from the Windows security issues:

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  2. Clunky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...described some features of Word as 'clunky.'"

    I guess that's what happens when you bloat Office up with pinball games, flight simluators and 3D Doom clones.

  3. Talking to Congress by sphealey · · Score: 4, Informative
    A comment on Groklaw (which I cannot find at the moment) made the point that Ballmer is probably talking to Congress: he is angling for a bill outlawing the GPL. Which I agree is a strong possibility.

    sPh

  4. Re:Pah by gfxguy · · Score: 3, Informative

    My father has his own accounting firm. When the software vendor for his tax program told him they were announcing end-of-life support for their Windows 98 software, he faxed back their announcement with "so support LINUX!" written across it in big black sharpie ink.

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    Stupid sexy Flanders.