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Can WINE Compromise Unix?
gbulmash asks: "As API's like WINE and Crossover Office gradually make it easier to run Windows binaries on Unix, will the system inherit some of Windows' vulnerabilities? For example, has anyone tried to get Outlook up and running under Wine, then deliberately tried to infect themselves with a Windows virus to see if it could raid the Outlook address book and start mailing itself out? It just seems to stand to reason that the better these systems get at running Windows binaries, the easier it will become to infect them with Windows viruses. Or am I just totally off base here?"
You'd be surprised. At work, we are on an Exchange mail/scheduling backend, and since I don't have Windows, I run Outlook under Wine - some of the time. Most of the time, I just use Outlook Web Access in my browser.
> That's why I don't run WINE and have absolutely no appreciation
> for the WINE project.
Too narrowminded. There are a lot of legacy win32 apps in regular use out there that won't get ported. Many times it is impossible to even locate the source or any design docs. It only takes ONE to keep a machine chained to Windows. If it takes wine to get that desktop converted it is still a win. Because once the conversion has taken place that shop probably won't invest in MORE win32 software and eventually those stragglers will get discarded as the relentless march of time obsoletes dead end programs that aren't being well maintained and probably never worked flawlessly in the first place.
Democrat delenda est
You miss the key aspect of the point that was being made. People are switching to Linux because it reduces the cost of support as well as the cost of implementation. However, the point was that there are still a lot of apps that run on Windows platforms for which there are no alternatives in the Linux world. Why give up all the extra benefits of Linux for just one or two applications for which no alternative exists?
;-)
The point of the WINE project is to provide that bridge. Get all the benefits of using something like Linux or BSD, get all the alternatives available to you (freely or otherwise) and if there are a few you need Windows for, use WINE to run them under Linux. Someone running Outlook under Linux would be a lot better off running Evolution and paying for the Connector license (cheaper licensing and native). However, someone running a core accounting app for which no Linux alternative exists is going to want to use WINE so they can still use that application AND get the benefits of the Linux alternatives for everything else.
WINE is a bridging tool for those migrating from Windows to Linux/Unix but who have applications for which no feasible Linux/Unix alternatives exist.
I would much prefer to save the costs involved in getting a Linux box up and running with WINE that spend the several hundred in licensing just for a few applications.
Hmmm...
($time to get up and running) vs ($time + $licensing costs for Windows)
Which is really the cheaper in the end? Support? Bah, its remote. Like you say, there is VNC if it comes down to it (bad solution really) but X across an SSH session is a lot better (regardless of how badly people think of the X protocol, it does its intended job very well still)
Just my $0.02. We differ in our opinions, but thats the beauty of diversity in life