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Microsoft Settles Six Class-Action Suits

Bootsy Collins writes "Microsoft has reached a settlement in class-action lawsuits filed against them by five states and the District of Columbia. Two of the six settlements have already been approved by the relevant courts. The settlements would provide $200 million in vouchers to past purchasers of Microsoft software. The vouchers can be used to purchase hardware, software, or training; suprisingly (given plaintiffs' willingness to roll over on this issue in the past), vouchers used for software need not be used to purchase Microsoft products. More on this story from the Washington Post as well as many other news sources."

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  1. Wow man, you gotta love that. by mindstrm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I mean, it always comes down to vouchers.

    They gave away some software.. OHH THE PAIN. HOW MUCH IT HURTS.

    Keeps their marketshare up, doesn't really cost them any real capital, just a slight market dilution, and so on. Not like, say, 200 million in auto parts.

    It should have been CASH.

    1. Re:Wow man, you gotta love that. by dolo666 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm still waiting for the Canadian Tire version of Microsoft: Billy Bucks.

    2. Re:Wow man, you gotta love that. by randyest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      RTFS: The vouchers can be used to purchase hardware, software, or training; suprisingly (given plaintiffs' willingness to roll over on this issue in the past), vouchers used for software need not be used to purchase Microsoft products.

      Not as good as cash, sure, but not as meaningless as a voucher for MS software.

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    3. Re:Wow man, you gotta love that. by kfg · · Score: 4, Funny

      Lesse, Wal-Mart, Tenneesee, I figure they'll redeem it on "Trailer Park Deer Hunter IV: Nuclear Annihilation!"

      Or would that be cultural stereotyping?

      KFG

  2. Oh Boy! Vouchers! by FuzzyDaddy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I mean, really. Even if it is for third party stuff. It was cash when the plantiff's were overcharged, shouldn't it be cash when it's returned?

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  3. ha ha ha...all the way to the bank by donnz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know others will point this out - but when will MS actually be punished for persistent illegalities rather than "giving away" stuff of "$$$" value that they claim a tax refund on?

    What happened to three strikes? Where are the orange jumb suits and chains?

    They are obviously serial offenders who see this sort of thing as a small cost of doing business.

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  4. $200 million by b17bmbr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    wow, that's like what, 3 minutes interest on their $40 billion in the bank. that'll really set them back a ways.
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    they're back.

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    1. Re:$200 million by GigsVT · · Score: 4, Informative

      36.5 days of interest at 5%

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  5. I hope the lucky voucher recipients consider this. by mikeophile · · Score: 3, Interesting
  6. And for a more utilitarian remedy ... by chessnotation · · Score: 3, Interesting

    MS should be made to host a free, high bandwidth FTP site that mirrors all of the current distributions of Linux and similar free OS software. If nothing else, this would in part make up for all the money received by MS from their unfair "Microsoft tax" charged on nearly every commercial x86 PC; a tax paid for no services whatsoever by those who use only Linux, *BSD, or the like on said machine.

    1. Re:And for a more utilitarian remedy ... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 4, Funny

      Win2k3 running IIS 6.0 serving Linux distro ISOs?

      And my head begins to spin....

      If (when?) the server goes down, will they blame "Linux"?

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  7. That's great by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Interesting

    vouchers used for software need not be used to purchase Microsoft products.

    But how much do you bet they will anyway?

    Like: Hey, we've got all this money we can do whatever we want with : how about we go get new computers? guess what's installed on the computers that will be paid in the machines' price tag?

    Unless people massively buy non-Intel boxes and/or Unix software, I'm willing to bet this will mean more money in the bank and more market penetration for Microsoft. Even if Linux, BSD or some other non-Windows OSes are actively promoted, you'll find a lot of Microsoft keyboards or mice in the hardware.

    How could it be otherwise? Microsoft has the market so well cornered that sooner or later, a lot of the settlement money will come back to them.

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  8. The Lawyer's Should be Paid in Vouchers by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 5, Funny

    The lawyers who agreed to this settlement should be paid in vouchers. Let this happen a couple times and maybe some proper settlements would be reached.

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    1. Re:The Lawyer's Should be Paid in Vouchers by ObligatoryUserName · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hey, that's no joke. These voucher class action settlements are horrible for consumers. When I sent money to the effort to free the sources for Blender I used Western Union. A month or so ago I got a letter telling me that there was a class action suit against Western Union because when they were transfering money to other countries (Blender is based in the Netherlands) they were making a secret profit on the currency conversions. I was entitled to a settlement in the form of a voucher that could be used for future Western Union transactions. I'm sure this is a relevant settlement to somebody, but I have no plans to ever use Western Union again. The lawyers got rich, the company was forced to do unwanted promotional mailings (the vouchers are so small that they're more like coupons than a punishment) and the costs got passed on to consumers. Anymore, class action lawsuits seem more like oil speculation and less like civil justice.

  9. Dear Bill Gates, by Mononoke · · Score: 4, Funny
    Please find enclosed $200 million dollars worth of vouchers redeemed on hardware purchases from Apple Computer. Please contact our Accounts Receivable department for accounts to wire the money to.

    Thank you very much for the business.

    Sincerely,
    Steve Jobs

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  10. Great deal there by mcc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    $200 million in exchange for which they get to rule the computer industry and do absolutely anything they like, and the government bodies that are supposed to periodically stop in and enforce anti-trust laws will look the other way, because Microsoft's already had its "punishment".

    For $200 million? That sounds like a pretty damn good deal to me.

    Especially when you have the amount of money in the bank MS does. I mean, hell, $200 million is what they spent on keeping the x-box disaster afloat in just the first quarter of this year alone.

    Would you like a bag of ice for that wrist there, Microsoft?

    Those were the last of the bits of the U.S. government holding out on actually holding MS accountable instead of just settling with them, right? Is the EU still going forward with anything?

  11. Re:Plaintiff's "willingness to roll over" by cgranade · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is the illogical consequence of a society too taken with "free capitalism" and without grounds in the reality of economic greed: people will do bad things to get money, if it is the most important thing in society. How quickly we forget the lessons of the "Robber Barons."

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  12. Re:Oh Boy! Vouchers! by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "It was cash when the plantiff's were overcharged, shouldn't it be cash when it's returned?"

    Uh, if you refund money from a monopoly, what's to prevent that money from going right back to the monopoly? At least, in this case, it gives people a chance to try out alternatives.

    It's a little more complicated than that, though. According to the final ruling in the anti-trust case, Microsoft isn't guilty of creating a monopoly, they're guilty of maintaining it. The implication there is that at some point, people said "We want Microsoft" and found the price fair. If they agreed to pay the price, why should they get cash back? Let the buyer beware.

    In any case, I'm not all that surprised that it turned out this way. Silver lining, folks. Non-Microsoft products get an audience they didn't have before, and schools benefit too.

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  13. I have an idea... by khenson · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe we can use the vouchers to pay our $699.00 SCO licensing fee...

  14. MSFreePC.com by vonsneerderhooten · · Score: 4, Informative

    Anyone ever heard of this site? It's run by the same people that make Lindows, and it's been around for a while. They make it nice and easy to (1)determine if you're eligable to recieve any vouchers, (2)redeem said vouchers. Also, it's possible to get an entire pc- probably one of those $199 lindows pc's, but hey it's free. Are you gonna complain?

    -D

  15. I did not RTFA but... by dwbryson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If this is anything like the california 'settlement' it's a fucking sham. The state of california filed the lawsuit on 'behaf of its constituents'... and here is what happened.

    The lawsuit result was for a couple billion dollars that microsoft had to 'give back' to its customers in california. So, much like the vouchers system in this one.. if you sent microsoft your license keys, they would give you a 'voucher' certificate. You could then purchase other hardware/software and mail in the receipt+voucher to get cash. Now here is where the scam is....

    All the money that isn't redeemed goes to seperate places. 2/3 of it goes to the state of california to 'help fund schools' and the last 1/3 goes back to microsoft. Now we all know if they get money from microsoft that can only be used for schools that means they will offset funds for schools later...
    So this is essentially payola for the state of california, fucking swine.

    who is going to go through the effort to get back, oh $50 on their microsoft licenses so that they can just purchase more equipment. Not joe blow.

    Compare this to the lawsuit filed by apple's customers about the G3's not being supported by macosX. The settlement says 'send in your copy of OSX and we will give you $129' ... that's $129 of COLD HARD CASH

    goverment for the people indeed.

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