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2.4 Servlet Spec Reviewed

Posted by Hemos on from the what's-coming-next dept.

Greg Wilkins writes "Core Developers Network have reviewed the good, the bad and the ugly of the 2.4 servlet specification being produced by JSR154 . As well as introducing the new features, those that are missing in action are discussed. Also existing and newly added problems in the specification are presented."

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  1. Re:java is obsolete by Graelin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I cannot believe I'm going to argue for Java....

    Java's main strength was supposed to be platform independence. However, due to missteps by Sun and backstabbing by Microsoft, Java has been relegated to the back-end of a web page, running under Unix. In this client-server architecture, speed is crucial, and Javas bytecode doesn't cut it.

    Although I would argue that Java's OO implementation is also it's main strength, but platform independence is also a big deal.

    Microsoft's antics only really prevent Java Applets from becoming a much bigger thing than they are today. In any other client-side Java deployment you can be sure the JRE ships with the app, is installed on the client machine by the sys-admin (corporate environment) or the installer handles JRE installation for you.

    If you truly believe that Java isn't platform independent, go look at any of the numerous Java Apps that have been written. Notice how they run on Windows, Mac, Linux and Solaris? That's not a typo. Here is one if you're too lazy to look yourself.

    Native binaries are the only way to get the speed necessary in the post-.com days

    This is also wrong. One need only look at the rapid proliferation of languages such as Perl, PHP, Python and (duh) Java as evidence. Asm/C/C++ have their uses - but to use them for everything should get you fired.

    Fortunately, Linux is FREE (as in herpes and porn)and makes commodity hardware perform as well as enterprise offerings from Dell, Compaq, IBM, etc.

    Linux is an operating system - Java is a programming language. What are you trying to compare? Funny thing is, the Linux and Windows JREs are usually ahead of the solaris JRE - because more java users use... well, Linux and Windows.

    Furthermore, all major unices (AIX, SCO, *BSD, HPUX, Solaris, etc) include linux binary support, so linux binaries are more platform independent than Java is.

    Wonderful - so your app will run on all these different flavors of UNIX... just slower. Where as the JRE was built for the OS and does not need the same kind of translation. On top of that, it can take advantage of OS features a Linux binary may not be able to.

    Oh yeah - and Java runs on all those platforms plus Windows. So by sheer numbers Java is more platform independent.