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Linux Based Tablets Are Coming

CrypticSpawn writes "Read some good news on Diracian; there will be a Linux tablet coming out running Lycoris's Linux distribution, Lycoris Desktop/LX Tablet Edition. What's great is the tablet is the Protege by Toshiba, so you get a laptop and a tablet wrapped up into one. I guess I am a gadget fanatic, I love my Zaurus, now I want this. They even have pictures of it here. Also found another reference of this tablet on PC World, without the pics."

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  1. Uhh... by Pingular · · Score: 0, Insightful

    so you get a Laptop and a Tablet wrapped up into one
    That's a bad thing. People either want a Tablet or a Laptop or a Tablet and a seperate laptop, a mixture of the two just means missing out on the convenience of both.

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    1. Re:Uhh... by jhujoe · · Score: 4, Insightful
      So, you've got a perfectly good laptop now, and instead of just buying a notepad, you're going to buy a combination of the two?

      You're missing the obvious advantage of having one device instead of two.

      In fact, I was just passively reading slashdot in tablet mode on my Portege 3500, when I decided to flip it into laptop mode to quickly write this rebuttal to your ignorant posts. Now I will flip back into tablet mode and continue browsing slashdot like a book.

      Now -- let's see... you suggest having two different devices... Am I supposed to carry two devices with me at all times? And if I were browsing this same article on my slate tablet, and wanted to write a length reply like this, I would have to boot up / start using my tablet, navigate to the same page I am already at, and write this reply? Or use a pen that is made for only short input?

      I hope you can see that there are clear advantages to the hybrid style.

  2. In the next release? by Leeji · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Right now one of the things it is lacking that it really needs is handwritting recognition, which they say will be in the next release.

    Did I tell you I'm just about to submit my perpetual motion machine to manufacturing? Motion will be in the next release, though.

    But seriously... I hope they're talking about the "next release" as in "the version that will go onto the tablet when it ships." A Tablet Pc is just an expensive doodle pad without the handwriting recognition.

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  3. Still Underpowered w/ a Pentium III by MuParadigm · · Score: 0, Insightful


    I want a tablet with 512MB of RAM and a Centrino 1.4Mhz processor, minimum. This Pentium III Mobile shit has got to stop. Oh, and since we're running Linux on it, NVidia graphics.

    1. Re:Still Underpowered w/ a Pentium III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Well, seeing as the hardware they've chosen has been around for a year now, it's not bloody surprising that it's a P3 mobile is it!

      Anyway, what is this about Pentium III mobile shit? It's still a current line Intel CPU, has low power drain compared to mobile P4 hardware. I'd sure as hell want good battery life from a tablet rather than a speed increase cos there's no way I'm running off to find a power socket every hour and a half.

      From the specs you've mentioned, you sound like someone who wants a tablet PC to be a laptop. Tablets are a different beast - battery life, weight (and thus cooling requirements) and portability rule the day, not GFX power, CPU power and storage space.

      That said, go take a look at the HP TC1100, so it's only a 1GHz Centrino deck - which is fast enough for a tablet - but check out the rest of the specs, WiFi A,B & G, Bluetooth, IR, SD slot, great battery life, 2GB max memory, nVidia chipset. That's desirable in anyone's book.

      Go buy.

  4. Linux Tablet PC == Good? by aardwolf204 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let me just make sure I understand this correctly:

    Windows Tablet PC == Bad
    Linux Tablet PC == Good

    Ok, continue on with the mindless /. ramblings...

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    1. Re:Linux Tablet PC == Good? by Ralph+Yarro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Windows Tablet PC == Bad
      Linux Tablet PC == Good


      Close.

      Windows Tablet PC == Okay, so maybe it is a cool toy but HA, apart from the gimmick value what's the point?

      Linux Tablet PC == Okay, maybe it doesn't have much going for it beyond gimmick value but WOW, what a cool toy!

      The difference in emphasis is a little more subtle than Good vs. Bad.

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  5. Only If by mccormick · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Too bad no one cares about them anyways, Linux or otherwise.

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  6. Um, yeah... by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Windows Tablet PC == Enormous licencing costs that bite into already razor thin margins

    Tablet PC sales have been disapointing, and I understand that Microsoft made a deal with one of the manufacturers (I forget which one) that bundles the handwriting recognition software free with the OS while everyone else has to shell out for both. That's gotta be pissing the rest of 'em off.

    Once the handwriting app's written, this'll be a perfect market for linux to make some headway in. I only hope they're not boneheaded enough to release the thing without handwriting recognition (maybe banking on the ability to use it as a laptop instead).

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  7. How great are tablets anyway? by metatruk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I mean. It's not a laptop. You can't type on it.
    It's not a PDA. You can't put it in your pocket.
    It relies on recognizing your handwriting with this pen.

    I dunno about the rest of the geeks out there, but I would *much* rather type than write. Typing is faster and more accurate (vs recognition).

    1. Re:How great are tablets anyway? by Naffer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I looked at tablets a few months ago. They seem more suited to a niche market. For school, it would be better to get a laptop for typing. They're worthless for games, and with the ultra low voltage chips they are using, most anything else. The only situation that seems to warrent a $2500 tablet is a professional artist. Thats it. $2500 can buy you a kickass 5lb Pentium M laptop. Linux on Tablet? Great, now you can't even use Photoshop, the only worthwhile use...

    2. Re:How great are tablets anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      No kidding. You ever tried doing any sort of programming or scripting using some sort of pen input device?
      No Kidding. I have to haul a couch to the next state with just a bicycle...

      Why do people insist on one tool for every job? Come on people, think a little. A tablet is good for some things, a laptop is good for other things, a rack of server is good for...

  8. Might be useful in schools by darnok · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Even though I work with a bunch of MS consultants who all carry these, I'm yet to see the killer use for tablet PCs that actually makes them more useful than a laptop PC. While laptop vs. tablet remains largely a matter of personal preference, tablets just won't sell.

    I can see several potential vertical markets for tablet PCs, but they lack the following:
    - a killer app or suite of apps for any one vertical market
    - a distinctly "better" interface than laptop PCs for any market
    - a new group of users; ones that wouldn't use laptop PCs, but would use one of these
    - a cost point that makes them a worthwhile investment. In particular, the Windows OS+tablet interface and the hardware requirements to run them blows the cost out too much
    - a much simpler interface. Current tablets are too complex for current non-PC users to use; manufacturers should be looking to *remove* stuff from tablets to make them simpler to use and cheaper to purchase in bulk. Something like an X-terminal with local storage and the ability to sync to central servers makes more sense than an all-singing-dancing laptop-like thing; the only people likely to buy the current crop of tablets are current laptop owners

    However...

    If the price of the hardware came down, and the tablet was reasonably rugged, I could see some opportunities for schools to take these up. I'm talking primary/secondary schools, or K-12 in US-speak. Take out the price of the Windows licence, and they're suddenly a lot more attractive.

    Most schools are having their budgets slashed, so IT spending is very low, but imagine taking a bunch of these and hooking them to something like an LTSP server:
    - teachers could use them to mark attendance; most current teachers are hopeless with a keyboard, and prefer writing. I'm inclined to think that a full-screen app that looks just like an attendance book, which has the names of all the students and check boxes next to their names, would go down very well with teachers, particularly if they could enter a "tick" or "cross" with a pen rather than typing stuff in or using a mouse. Laptops just aren't working out for most non-maths/science teachers who have them, in my experience
    - teachers grading assignments, particularly if they could take the tablets home, enter their data then do a seamless sync back to the central server
    - kids using them in test environments; imagine entering all your answers on the tablet, having the handwriting recognition neaten up the answers, then (for some subjects) getting your results at the end of the class. The marks could immediately go into a central database, and be exposed to parents over the Web; lots of possibilities here...
    - learning tools for specific, visual/factual subjects (e.g. geography; imagine all those maps coming to life when you point to them...)

    In particular, using LTSP, there's no need for every kid to have one; they could be tied to a class or classroom rather than an individual kid. Maybe physically lock them to desks somehow, or use RFIDs to track their whereabouts - I don't know, ask a hardware guy...

    I'd say this could be an interesting opportunity for a vertical market in education.

    BTW, IANAT (...teacher), but I have a mother who's an English teacher, and who constantly complains about using laptops because they're just too complicated.

  9. Re:And what about us Mac Users? by xenoandroid · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Uh, why would you strip it down just to table it? Any mac user who would otherwise pay for both a laptop and a drawing tablet would gladly pay even if it costs more than the non-tablet equivalent. They'd probably have an advantage in the tablet market for people who want high-end tablet machines if they didn't cheapen the hardware for it, since as of now you can't get a tablet PC that matches the highest end non-tablet laptop.

    But I'm sure Apple won't be entering the tablet market until it's more stable, they don't need to try anything new right now as they're making money on iPods.

  10. Re:Have the best of both worlds (Im a tabletPC own by ragnar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think for many applications the ability to draw directly onto the screen is much more intuitive than drawing on an off-screen tablet. Getting used to a wacom tablet is like learning to use a mouse for the first time. I don't think the two approaches are equally comparable.

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  11. What I want from a tablet by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I want it cheap and lightweight, and I mean 'lightweight' two ways.

    The tablet should barely be able to run an OS. It should have minimal RAM, a really small harddrive, and no keyboard, but come with the fastest wireless networking hardware available. For me, a useful tablet is one that I can leave laying around my house and pick up just to wander around and read an email, or browse a website, or read a paper or something. I have a desktop computer for all the hard stuff. If I needed proper portable computing, I'd buy a Powerbook.

    I figure this would be most useful for business, too. You install a good wireless network in the building, and people bring the tablets to meetings, or wander the hallways reading whatever it is they think they need to read so urgently. Checklists and meeting notes are sync'd to your PC automatically and wirelessly, so you can just sit down at your computer and do work when you get back to your desk. Forget doing work while walking...nobody does that very well right now with pen and paper anyway.

    Because the specs for the machine would be so low, it would be a lot cheaper. You don't have to pay the price of making things really small like a PDA, and you don't have to pay the price of making things powerful, like a good laptop, so you should be able to come up with something farily reasonable.