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When a PDA is better than a GBA for Gaming

An anonymous reader writes "Conventional wisdom says that it's silly to buy a $300+ PDA to play games when a $100 Game Boy Advance SP is going to be better at it. At the same time, no one says that it's silly to spend $1000+ on a PC to play games, when you can do the same thing with a $199 PlayStation 2. FiringSquad just posted an ASUS PDA review that focuses on some of the games that only a PDA has the horsepower for, and helps readers figure out how to pick out the right PDA."

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  1. Only buy what you need by Svet-Am · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If all you want is portable games, buy a portable game device (GBA, NeoGeoPocket, etc)

    If you want other functionality, buy a PDA.

    Period.

    Why is this an issue?

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    1. Re:Only buy what you need by bensagenius · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Because when I'm waiting for a meeting to start, I'd feel like a real asshole whipping out a Gameboy. At least maybe SOMEONE in the room will think I'm using my Palm for legitimate reasons!

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  2. Not silly? by Psmylie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "At the same time, no one says that it's silly to spend $1000+ on a PC to play games, when you can do the same thing with a $199 PlayStation 2"

    Are you kidding? I see that all the time! On slashdot, even.
    Besides, who only spends a grand on a gaming machine?

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    1. Re:Not silly? by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "At the same time, no one says that it's silly to spend $1000+ on a PC to play games, when you can do the same thing with a $199 PlayStation 2"

      Are you kidding? I see that all the time! On slashdot, even.
      Besides, who only spends a grand on a gaming machine?


      Hell, I say it all the time!

      Not only that, but the games you buy for PCs are barely working. At least with a console there's a QA systems that forces the developpers and distributors to only release gamnes that actually work/can be finished/won't destroy your machine.

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  3. Limitations... by anaphora · · Score: 5, Funny

    But can a PS2 play Solitare? Didn't think so.

    Everything has limitations.

  4. Karma whoring "duh" response: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can sit in the back of a crowded presentation at work, or in the back of my math class, with a PDA, doing various things, but if I'm seen sitting there using a GBA, that's somehow "disrespectful". Even though either way I'm clearly not paying attention.

    This is why TI Calculator games are the most wonderful thing in the world. No one is going to see anything odd about me pressing buttons on a calculator in a large lecture hall.

    1. Re:Karma whoring "duh" response: by angle_slam · · Score: 4, Funny
      This is why TI Calculator games are the most wonderful thing in the world. No one is going to see anything odd about me pressing buttons on a calculator in a large lecture hall.

      Unless it's a literature class.

  5. Forget action games by homer_ca · · Score: 3, Informative

    I tried gaming on a 400Mhz Dell Axim. Morphgear is a pretty good arcade and console emulator, but it's just a little choppy with the sound on. The big problem is the controls. The directional pad is a little mushy and imprecise. Maybe it's better on other PDAs. The IPAQs I've seen in stores have a more substantial click on the pad. I also don't think the buttons were built to take the constant pounding of gaming and they're obviously not replacable. Still, for non-action games like Final Fantasy or Nethack it works fine.

  6. You're ridiculous by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Informative

    no one says that it's silly to spend $1000+ on a PC to play games, when you can do the same thing with a $199 PlayStation

    I say that all the time. I think it's insane that a friend of mine just spent $500 to upgrade his PC to get Halo playable, when he could have bought an Xbox for about 100 bucks used.

    I much prefer sitting on the couch playing games up on the big screen than sitting in a task chair 18 inches from a monitor. I prefer a thumbstick to a keyboard and mouse. I also prefer the types of titles that come out on consoles, and find the console exclusives to be some of the best games around.

    More precisely, I generally dont care for FPS titles, and am more interested in a fun game than hi-res eye candy.

    The one advantage the PC had for me was online multiplayer. An advantage its rapidly losing as more and more people plug in their Xboxes, PS2s and GCNs.

    The console is catching up to the PC graphically as well - it's far surpassed the low-end PC's with so many HDTV ready titles showing up. 720p or 1080i on a big screen for me please.

    And of course, the cost of entry is miniscule, compared to PC hardware. Perhaps ATI and nVidia should find a way to subsidize their hardware through software sales to try and close the gap.

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    1. Re:You're ridiculous by damiam · · Score: 4, Funny
      I think it's insane that a friend of mine just spent $500 to upgrade his PC to get Halo playable

      I think it'd take a lot more than a hardware upgrade to make Halo playable.

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    2. Re:You're ridiculous by Frederic54 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      yup, and the price for a 60 inches 16:9 HDTV is?

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  7. Yea by mao+che+minh · · Score: 3, Insightful
    A console can still not achieve the versatility of a PC when it comes to gaming. I prefer consoles to PCs due to convienence, but I do recognize that gaming on a console is still laregly confined to the "local area". Only the Xbox has truly brought full-fledged online gaming to the console masses (local storage, patches, large centralized gaming network, etc - basically everything that makes online PC gaming so good).

    The problem with this, is that Microsoft has been using its endless bags of cash and an unfair monopoly status to swing this much weight into a new market. If they weren't able to lose hundreds of millions of dollars to do this, it would have never happened. Online console gaming would still be largely non-existent. Just something to think about: is Microsoft good in this case, or are they bad?

  8. Yet Another Example by rastakid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here is Yet Another Example (YAE) of playing games on a PDA: I'm the proud owner of the Sharp Zaurus SL-5500, and I've finished ID's Doom and Lucas Art's Monkey Island I (using ScummVM ported for the Zaurus) on my PDA. Just take a look at the Zaurus Software Index to see which games are available. So yes, I think PDAs are growing more and more into gaming platforms, keep an eye on them. Ow, and besides gaming, you can do a lot other things with PDAs, which you can't with GBAs and others.

  9. Or buy both...in one! by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Tapwave Zodiac is no longer vapor. It's shipping now.
    Games are problematic, most Palm games should run, others are being worked on. It's pretty open for development, so many emulators are possible.

    Specs are:
    Memory: Zodiac1 = 32MB*
    Zodiac2 = 128MB*
    * 12MB reserved for system use.
    Processor: Motorola(R) i.MX1(TM) ARM9 processor (200 MHz)
    Graphics
    Accelerator: ATI(R) Imageon(TM) W4200 graphics accelerator (with 8MB dedicated SDRAM).
    Display: 3.8 inch transflective display
    480 x 320 (half VGA), 16-bit color backlit display (65,536 colors) Portrait and landscape display capabilities Digitizer for enhanced interactive game play, navigation and text input.
    Sound: Yamaha(R) audio component and stereo speakers
    Standard 3.5mm stereo headphone plug
    Earbud-style headphones included
    Support for select third-party portable speakers
    Vibration: Supports silent notification and interactive game play.
    Controls: Variable pressure analog controller (joystick), 2 triggers, 4 programmable action buttons, 1 special function button,
    1 home button, 1 power button, and 1 Bluetooth button.
    Expandability: Dual expansion slots for MultiMediaCards, Secure Digital (SD) cards
    and SDIO cards, including digital cameras and more.*
    Zodiac Connector for additional peripherals.
    * Slot #1: supports MultiMediaCards, Secure Digital Cards (SD).
    Slot #2: supports MultiMediaCards, Secure Digital Cards (SD), and
    SDIO cards.
    Wireless Connectivity: Built-in Bluetooth radio with dedicated activation button.
    Ideal for multiplayer wireless gaming, sharing information and connectivity to other compatible Bluetooth enabled devices.
    PC Desktop Connectivity: USB Cable, USB Cradle (sold separately)
    Cover: Protective Flip Cover
    Wrist Strap: Convenient strap
    Battery: High-capacity Rechargeable Lithium Batteries - 1540 mAh
    Power Supply: AC Adapter / Battery Charger (120 volt AC, 60 Hz) International connectivity kit (sold separately)
    Size/Weight: 5.6" (143mm) x 3.1" (79mm) x .55" (14mm) / 6.3 ounces
    Color: Zodiac1 - Slate Gray, Zodiac2 - Charcoal Gray
    Software Specifications
    Operating System: Tapwave enhanced Palm OS 5.2T
    Writing Software: Graffiti 2
    Included Software:
    Games: Stuntcar Extreme, AcidSolitaire
    Media:
    Music: Tapwave MP3 player
    Photos: Tapwave JPEG Photo Viewer
    Video Playback: Kinoma Player 2
    Video Creation: Kinoma Producer (Quickly and easily converts AVI, QuickTime, MPEG1, MPEG4 files for use on the Zodiac entertainment console).*
    *QuickTime software required to use Kinoma Producer on PC
    eBook reader: PalmReader
    Organizer: Address Book, Date Book, To Do List, Memo Pad
    Other Stuff:
    Alarm Clock (Tapwave Alarm Clock with integrated stopwatch & MP3 music feature),
    Wireless-based chat & shared whiteboard (PhatPad by Trumpetsoft)
    Graphing Calculator (powerOne by Infinity SoftWorks)
    Microsoft(R) Word(R)-compatible Word Processor (WordSmith by Blue Nomad)
    Connectivity: Web Browser and SMS client for use with compatible Bluetooth enabled phones (bonus software on CD).

  10. It depends what you're after... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At the same time, no one says that it's silly to spend $1000+ on a PC to play games, when you can do the same thing with a $199 PlayStation 2.

    Ever tried to find a decent flight simulator on a console? Good luck searching for one. There are plenty of games (and genres of games) that are better on a PC than they are on a console.

    Some of us older gamers can remember the time when consoles couldn't even save games unless the cartridge came with built-in storage (ie, almost anything that came before the PS1), and it's only recently that online multiplayer gaming has become possible on the latest generation of consoles.

    Still, try finding a real equivalent of Everquest or even Warcraft III on a PS2/X-Box/GC. You can get close, but not close enough to earn you a cigar.

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  11. Re:Both PDA and GBA are silly. by more · · Score: 3, Informative
    The phones have 40% of the CPU of PDAs and 20x the CPU of GBA. It is sufficient to run most games, especially if compared to the GBA. The power consumption of modern phones for running the games is very, very low. Basically, the phones have a slightly more battery-saving architecture than the PDAs, but the difference in CPU performance is very small.

    A Nokia series 40 phone that runs two weeks without reloading runs for 4 days with the CPU fully loaded, and a Symbian series 60 phone runs for 2-3 days with the CPU fully loaded. The batteris are not the problem, I have to admit that the form may be a problem for you. It is not a problem for me or my children.

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  12. Re:'Zat so? by WegianWarrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My impression is that every time person X buys anything person Y doesn't have (console, PC, graphics card, game) person Y insists that it's silly...

    And it's certainly true if the item that person X has bought outpermforms and costs less than the item person Y has.

    However, this 'wisdom' that is refered to in the ingress is what I like to call 'beancounters wisdom'. While it may appear ecomomicaly reasonable to "save" around 800$ by buying a dedicated gamingconsole instead of a multipurpose computingplatform (ie, a personal computer), I find that it isn't. A PC (or a Mac for that matter) is seldom used solely for gaming - it can be used as a typewriter, to help you organise your life (and remaning money =) ), get you online and so on. That, and a PC will often be superior at certain sorts of games, as well as often arriving with its own display device, which means that mum and dad can watch the news without junior having to break of his game...

    That aside, I own myself two PCs (three if you count the old 486), one PSX, one PS2, one Plam and a GBA... so perhaps the wise thing to do is to get them all and use the one best suited at any one task?

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  13. Re:My DooM 3 Machine by vidnet · · Score: 4, Funny
    Anything I'm missing?

    A girlfriend?

    On the other hand, girlfriends come and go, but the love from a Dual 2ghz G5 is pure and everlasting, until people outspec it on their PDAs next year.