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Voyager 1 Reaches Interstellar Space

letxa2000 writes "CNN is reporting that Voyager 1, now some 8.4 billion miles (90 AUs) from the sun, has left the solar system and entered interstellar space by reaching the heliopause. However, whether the probe has reached the heliopause or is just coming close is the subject of two papers to be published in Thursday's Nature Magazine. The probe supposedly has enough nuclear fuel to last until 2020. Will it be able to find anything interesting outside the solar system in the next 17 years?"

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  1. Even if it does, will it be able to tell us? by yndrd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What's the range of communications for the probe? When will we lose our connection (if we haven't already)?

    1. Re:Even if it does, will it be able to tell us? by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I suppose if they felt they were still getting useful information from the probe (ie, it was "looking" at something "interesting" with sensors that still worked), they could always launch a relay-type satellite... just like a network repeater.

      Good thing they have several years to decide both if they:
      A) want to have/fund such a thing
      B) are getting new information worth collecting

      Heck... who knows where our terrestrial (or even space-stationed) receiver technology will be in 5 years; perhaps we'll be able to pick out the signal from here, no matter how weak nor how noisy.

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    2. Re:Even if it does, will it be able to tell us? by StewedSquirrel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      First of all, the primary issue with the signal falloff is the SIZE of the reciever. Launching a sattellite doesn't exactly solve that problem, because the sattelite's reciever would have to be *nearly* as large as the VLA or the big "lake sized" earth-bound dishes.

      I think it has more to do with the sheer size, than the sensitivity of the reciever. The "noise" from the Universe will eventually eat the signal and with the combination of decreasing power and increasing distance, I think xmit power will fall off faster than some "technology" (new filters, transforms, etc etc)

      Squirrel

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  2. Re:to paraphrase by Carnildo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Detailed answer: Yes.

    Questions that can still be investigated by Voyager include a number of questions about the interaction between the solar wind, solar magnetic field, and interstellar medium, direct measurements of the interstellar magnetic field, the actual composition of interstellar gas, where exactly the heliopause lies, and how it's affected by changes in solar activity. I'm sure there are even more questions that I haven't thought of.

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  3. 12.5 Hours by johnos · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's how long it takes a signal to reach us from the probe. When you consider the galaxy is 100,000 light years across, 8.4 billion miles is nothing.

    1. Re:12.5 Hours by CKW · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I love visualizing these things (all numbers approximate, I haven't pulled out the calculator.):

      if the galaxy was 100 KM wide,

      within 20 meters in any direction sun would be approximately 20 other stars,

      the nearest star would be 3-4 meters away,

      the probe would be 1.5 mm away.

      .

  4. The mind boggling nature... by downix · · Score: 3, Interesting

    of how scientists do not take the next big leap. What frightens me the most is that we have not sent more probes after Voyager.

    Coming up is a planetary alignment that would allow a route to Tau Ceti, one of the reasonably nearby stars that could have an inhabitable planet. Using modern high-velocity nuclear engines, a probe could be engineered to reach it in 100 years, roughly. And a craft could be engineered to actually survive the travel *and* send back useful data.

    I want to see interstellar probes, engineered to travel to the nearest (12ly or less) stars and explore them.

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  5. How long before we catch up with it ? by Jesrad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if we'll ever see space technology advance enough so that, one day, we might be able to send a spacecraft past Voyager. Maybe we'll have some form of near-light-speed travel, or even faster-than-light travel, and manage to reach other stellar systems before Voyager does ?

    In any case, I'll be more than satisfied if we establish a colony on Mars, tag me a conservative if you will, but I don't feel like leaving good old Sol just yet.

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  6. Re:to paraphrase by pclminion · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Better answer: We really hope so!

    Voyager has been moving through space in ways unexplainable by physics. There is a small acceleration that can't be accounted for using known laws. It's almost like gravity doesn't work quite the way we think it does.

    Of course, there is always the possibility that we just can't see the source of the acceleration, and it'll turn out to be something simple. However so far, all proposals put forth to explain it have been shown to be incorrect.

    There is a deeper connection to very important issues in physics. For decades we have been studying the fabled "dark matter" which is supposed to be the cause of the anomalous rotation of the galaxy. The galaxy does not move in ways predicted by the laws of gravity. It is as if there is a huge amount of hidden mass which is influencing its rotation. So far we have not found any of this "dark matter."

    But imagine the possibility. What if dark matter doesn't really exist? What if it's our understanding of gravity that is wrong? This would have profound implications throughout physics. After all our only direct experience of gravity is what happens here on Earth and within the bounds of the solar system. Except that today, we have a probe that has crossed that limit.

    Perhaps the anomalous motion of Voyager will shed light on the situation. I for one would be utterly elated if it turns out we have to rewrite our physics books.

    Voyager isn't useless yet!

  7. Re:Money isn't the problem by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "The real problem is that society, as a whole, just doesn't care enough about the unfortunates enough to do anything."

    Funny, when I read this, a memory bubbled to the surface. I was at a fast food joint one night. A homeless woman tapped my shoulder and asked for money to buy food. Thinking "hey, we're in a restaraunt, she'll actually use the money to buy food!" I gave her $5. She turned right around, wandered outside, and headed in the direction of a nearby shopping center complete with liquor store. The woman next to me in line was astonished. I wasn't terribly happy about that.

    Can't entirely blame society here. The whole 'teach a man to fish he can eat for a life time' story comes to mind. It's hard to buy a homeless guy a meal and let him go off to bum a meal off of somebody else the next day. I can give him my money, but what will he do to help himself?

    Society's not generally being cold hearted here. They are, however, closing themselves off from being taken advantage of. I don't have a solution to the homeless problem, but I'm reasonably confident that feeding them isn't the answer. They need to be made independent. Show me a way I can contribute to that, and I'm all ears.

    Don't assume people don't care. They do care. The problem is the solution isn't there.

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