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Novell/SUSE Prime for Aquisition?

Ho Kooshy Fly writes "Supposedly Novell/SUSE looks like a good buyout target now. The likes of the obvious, IBM and the less obvious Cisco might be interested in integrating in the new Novell/SUSE company into their portfolio." Lucent, AT&T, and HP are also mentioned as possible buyers, but it's important to remember that it's all still just speculation.

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  1. Ripe why? by bsayer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't see why IBM would want the combination of them. SuSE by itself I can see, but why would IBM be more interested with Novell as part of the deal? IBM has Notes, so it doesn't need GroupWise.

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    1. Re:Ripe why? by 56ker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "IBM has Notes, so it doesn't need GroupWise."

      Yes - but if you buy up the competition you can then raise prices as there's less competition in the marketplace.

    2. Re:Ripe why? by bhtooefr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      An IBM controlled Novell will be the straw that broke the SCO's back...

      Novell has full control of SCO's UNIX license, and an IBM controlled Novell would yank it in a heartbeat, securing Linux for IBM.

  2. Novell would make a great buy for IBM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Suddenly, they'd hold all of Novell's rights vs. SCO. Since they sold SCO those rights to begin with, SCO could quickly wind up in a pickle... :]

    Especially since Novell has those rights to direct SCO to do whatever it wants with respect to the contract between SCO & IBM.

    In other words, IBM buying Novell would draw the noose more tightly around SCO's neck (okay, true, that's overkill, but...)

    1. Re:Novell would make a great buy for IBM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      IBM hardly dumps anything (OS/2 is still sold and supported for example) -- They are the masters of making big money off legacy technologies, however. Which is why a Novell buyout has been rumored for at least 7 years.

    2. Re:Novell would make a great buy for IBM by chris_7d0h · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do note however, that IBM wants to take SCO to court. Purchasing Novell would (if the rumour is true and Novell actually holds the rights needed) put IBM in the clear and as such the case would probably be dismissed. The result most likely being that SCO would start pestering someone else, possibly someone with a lesser legal team. IBM is after what most slashdot readers are, a squishing sound as the bug is squashed into goo.

      Also as has been pointed out, IBM has struck alliance with both Suse and Redhat and are having customers using both distros. Alienating Redhat means causing problems for some of IBMs existing users as well as affecting future deals, at the moment, not a good idea. Shoving down some cash into Novells pockets, helping ensure the company stays above water is the wiser alternative and is what I believe IBM will settle with considering the current state of things.

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  3. Re:IBM? Why? by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That might be news to the MVS, OS/400, and other OS teams that IBM pays each month.

  4. Can't See this being good for anyone, right now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Of the companies mentioned, IBM seems the only one likely to be able to do something with Novell/SuSE. But do they really need them? They've got plenty on their own and 1 merger is risky enough, merging with a recent merger (actually 2) would be pretty risky and likely to fail. Of the other companies mentioned, Cisco would be asking for trouble, stick to Network hardware, it's what made you rich and the others just don't need the trouble. I was excited to see Novell eat up Ximian and SuSE, I believe they'll be succesful, but adding one more company to the mix might be the straw that break the merger's back.

  5. The end of Red Hat? by todesengel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If there was a buy out of Novell, it would definately spell the end of Red Hat. Imagine how strong of a Linux powerhouse IBM or Cisco owning Ximian, Suse, and Novell would be. Both desktop and server would benifit immensely. A little side note: check out these two stock graphs of Novell and Red hat, on the day Suse was aquired. Redhat Novell

  6. I don't think so. by sjvn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Please! IBM and HP buy a Linux company? 'Why buy a cow when milk is free' has been their attitude towards Linux for a while now. Besides, IBM will soon own a small share of Novell anyway--more than sufficient to do them good if there's anything to the stories of Novell having enough Unix IP rights left to protect any Linux with a Novell brand on it from SCO attacks.

    As for the others, sorry, I keep an eye on all of them, and I haven't see any sign of any of them having any interest in getting into the OS business. AT&T & Lucent have their own problems to fix, and Cisco is finally coming around quite nicely by having stuck to their main business lines.

    Steven

  7. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Talk about Paranoia. Novell bought SuSE to strengthen their Linux offering. SuSE went from being an independent software company with a market cap in the $210 million range, to being part of a company with a market cap well above $2 billion.
    Redhat is focusing on selling products that will make it money. So Redhat won't make boxed sets of their cheapest product anymore, but who were buying them anyway? You've always been able to get it in tons of books, magazines, on the net etc., and Fedora is taking over the mantle. So what you have is a situation where companies still get support if they pay for it, just as before, and consumers get a ditro, just as before, but the name will be different, and they'll have to go to some cheap CD packager to get CD's of it much like most people have been doing anyway.

    Sun? Who cares about Sun except Sun itself?

    All in all I see the Novell and Redhat events as good - it will likely help both companies, which will only mean better business penetration for Linux, and that will filter down to consumers eventually.

  8. Not only that, but IBM wants Linux to spread ... by brokeninside · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If nothing else, Big Blue has learned from its OS/2 days that other hardware vendors are unwilling to buy an OS from a company that competes with them in hardware sales. If IBM bought a Linux distro, it would quickly become the only hardware vendor to preload that distro.

    As IBM wants Linux to take over the world, the need to keep it somewhat at arms length. Big Blue will continue to dance with the penguin, but no one should expect IBM to invite Tux home to bed.

  9. Not likely, though by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IBM made a point a few years ago of emphasizing that they wanted to be a service company and work with all Linux distributions neutrally, not make their own. If they were to suddenly favor one distro so strongly, it would discard their neutrality, and I think that would hurt their current business model.

  10. Re:Not HP. by bangalla · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sad but true. The last thing HP needs to do right now is buy yet another company.

    If HP wants an OS to invest in they should take a look at OpenVMS. DEC and Compaq almost criminally neglected their VMS customers and yet they STILL sold new licenses.

    OpenVMS has unlimited potential, if only its new owner would get past a little bit of "Not Invented Here" mentality and get over their Redmond worship.

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  11. Re:IBM doesn't need Novell by beeblebrox87 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They already have a slightly competent judge. Its probably better for everybody for IBM to fight this out based on the case they already have. We need a legal affirmation of the GPL, for one thing, which is unlikely to come up if IBM has another, better case based on the Novell copyrights. After SCO loses, then IBM can buy Novell.