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"Spim" is Latest Online Annoyance

Pcol writes "The Washington Post reports that 'Spim,' as people are beginning to call unsolicited instant messages, is the latest sign that online marketers will seek to take advantage of other communication tools, not limiting themselves to spam or pop-up ads. The good news is that it's not easy for spimmers to send unsolicited instant messages. Instant message providers like AOL, Microsoft and Yahoo have a lot of control over their instant message networks, and since they look at their IM offerings as gateway services that help draw customers in to their paid Internet offerings, these firms are already committing resources to making sure the spim problem never reaches the same scale as spam." Even without the providers assistance, many people who use IM systems are smart enough to limit incoming messages to those from their buddy lists. Still, there must be enough of a success rate to move spimmers to continue messaging users.

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  1. This has been going on for years by Metasquares · · Score: 4, Informative

    Remember those weblinks you used to get from strangers on ICQ? This is hardly a new and emerging trend.

    1. Re:This has been going on for years by garcia · · Score: 3, Informative

      it also happens when you show your personal information to anyone on the service. Disable that option (on AIM) and they don't find you.

      Better option yet... Don't let anyone contact you that isn't on your list. If they can't search for you in the first place it won't matter if they can't contact you if they happen across your AIM screen name.

    2. Re:This has been going on for years by stilwebm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ICQ made it slightly easier than other Instant Messaging clients. All you had to do was send a message to UIN's, starting at perhaps 1000 and working up to 10000000 and beyond. Spread it out over several IPs and several days and it's harder to notice. With AIM, Yahoo and MSN, you have to try alphanumerical combinations, increasing the number of possible combinations. I first noticed ICQ spam when installing an early version of LICQ (late 1997 or early 1998 I believe) and telling it to reject messages from users not on my contact list, then checking the logs for rejected messages. The log file grew several kilobytes per week. Windows versions at the time did not log rejected messages.

      Of course they were almost 100% adult sites, mostly people saying "Hi I'm Lolita from Moscow U."

  2. SPIM by kelceylehrich · · Score: 3, Funny

    But there isn't a hated semi-meat food called spim. The cultural connotation won't be enough for people to hate it. We should call it pork-rhinds.

    1. Re:SPIM by DrEldarion · · Score: 3, Funny

      I worked at a grocery store for 7 years, and I can tell you that neither spam nor pork-rinds were hated. You'd be VERY surprised at how often they both went through the line. These weren't people who could only afford spam, either, this was in upper-middle-class suburbia.

  3. It'll never be a real problem because... by Space+cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... it's obviously in someone's best financial interests to make sure it's not a problem, and they have the means to ensure it - if only it were the same with email...

    Simon

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  4. Unfortunate name choice by yerricde · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I thought "SPIM" was a PC program that simulates a generic MIPS architecture processor, used in computer architecture courses in computer science and computer engineering curricula.

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  5. Light on details by mr100percent · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This article is pretty light on details. Where do they get your screen name? (I guess handle is out of fashion) Chat rooms I imagine, but has every spimmed person been in a chat room at some point? Or does everyone fill in their name in their UBB forum profiles?

    AOL/AIM seems to have it worst, lots and lots of porn spims. Never had a problem with Yahoo but I remember a /. story about spam on MSN.

    Wouldn't it be harder to spam on MSN and Yahoo? Don't they crack down on unauthorized clients, while AIM has the open-source TOC protocol?

  6. Spim? spim! where's the monty python refreence by JamesD_UK · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, there's AOL messenger and Yahoo! messenger; AOL messenger MSN messenger and Yahoo! messenger; AOL messenger and spim; AOL messenger Yahoo! messenger and spim; AOL messenger Yahoo! messenger MSN messenger and spim; spim Yahoo! messenger MSN messenger and spim; spim AOL messenger spim spim Yahoo! messenger and spim; spim MSN messenger spim spim Yahoo! messenger spim tomato and spim; spim spim spim AOL messenger and spim; spim spim spim spim spim spim baked IRC spim spim spim......or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried AOL messenger on top and spim...... Well, there's spim AOL messenger MSN messenger and spim, that's not got much spim in it.

    I don't want ANY spim! Seriously though, since when was this news? I remember receiving spam^H^Him years ago in ICQ.
  7. Meh, relatively easy to get around. by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have AIM set to only allow people on my buddy list to contact me. If you're not on it, to you it looks like I'm offline. Not possible to get "spim" this way, unless it's one of my friends sending it.

    The only problem comes when someone that's NOT on my buddy list wants to talk to me. Usually it's not a big deal, they can just e-mail me and I'll add them to the list later. It is somewhat inconvenient, but better than getting 10 IMs a day telling me to go to porn sites.

    There's a middle ground, which is asking for your authorization before it shows the IM window, but I never found this to help - it was always too tempting just to click the "see message" button to see what they were sending me. So that didn't really help much.

  8. User reporting by Aneurysm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Last year I had a lot of spam from users on AIM, it stopped after a while, but I got a few a day for a few weeks, before it tailed off. I haven't had an unsolicited message now for over a year. The point was that the ignore lists didn't work, because although it was presumably the same spammer, or group of spammers, the screen name was never the same twice. I think what programs like AIM need is a one click button, that marks the person as a spimmer. If say 5 or 10 DIFFERENT people mark the same user they could be marked as a spimmer, and AIM could be set up to automatically ignore IM's from spimmers. Very similar to the warning level, but subtely different, because the warning level controls the spimmmers send rate, whereas this method puts the control in the hands of the people on the recieving end. You could also allow people to alter the spimmer level they accept messages from.

  9. Stopping sp(a || i)mmers... by AVee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Email spam is getting filtered and blocked more and more by email users and ISP's. Gives a lot of hassle. This makes email more and more a ineffective medium for spammer. The people that don't have their email filtered are switching to IM because the anount of spam they get with email.
    It's sad, but just logical that spammers will switch to IM. We should stop trying to stop spammers by technological means, they will find ways around it or we will end op with a hardly usable messaging system. What we should do is find ways of taking the profit away from them. Either by educating people not to by spamvertized products, by sueing their ass off or just 'SlashDot' them in some dark alley. As long as it possible to make profit from spam ther will be spammers...

  10. Other unwanted forms of avertising by dgenr8 · · Score: 5, Funny


    SHAM = Commercial messages delivered via amateur radio
    SPANK = Commercial TV in the classroom
    SPUD = Commercial crop circles, especially in potato fields
    SPELUNK = Advertisements on cave walls

  11. AIM has "Warn" by harks · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Could this problem be solved with use of the "Warn" feature? Spimmers could change their screen name and keep spimming, but the warn feature could be changed to warn an IP? If it already does, just warn the spimmers and they won't be able to send out messages nearly as massively as email spammers.

  12. Strangers are just spimmers you haven't met yet.. by Channard · · Score: 4, Informative

    .. which is why using the 'hide name' feature on AIM or whatever your using solves the problem rather neatly. Anyone who you want to IM with can still IM as long as they know your name, but casual browsers can't see you.

  13. You forgot . . . . by Anonymous+Poodle · · Score: 3, Funny

    SPUNK = Pr()n ads

  14. Damn!, I thought she was realy interested in me by thbigr · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought here invitation to check out here personal web site was a big come one. Sure the request for a Visa card seemed kind of strange, but then other girl friends I have had ask for my Visa card.

    Hmmmm....

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  15. counter-spamming by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I currently still think that the best way to counter spam, right now, is to attack their business model. Right now, that consists of convincing poeple to actually start responding to spam by providing them with bogus infomation (random addresses and phone numbers, void (old or auto-generated) credit cards, etc/).

    My idea is to drown them in bogus data so that they spend more time and money responding to bogus responses than they would with old-fashioned cold calling. It would also remove the advantage of increasing spamming volume because the spammer with the highest volume would also get the most garbage responses.

    Thoughts?

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  16. SCO says SPIM is a derivative work... by Proudrooster · · Score: 4, Funny

    Today SCO announced the SPIM is a derivative work using the login that they SPIM begins with the letter 'S' (just like SCO). Darl McBride CEO of SCO announce that they would not take this lightly and were planning on sending threatening letters to anyone who sends or receives SPIM and to anyone with a name that begins with 'S'.

    Boycott SCO and SPIM!

  17. Re:Obscenity through Obscurity - Hoopla! by dipipanone · · Score: 3, Informative

    Is it obscure? I suppose it depends on which part of the world you live in? When we did Canterbury Tales at 'O' Level, this was always our favourite part.

    Now, gentleman, this gallant Nicholas
    One day began to romp and make a pass
    At this young woman, in a mood of play,
    Her husband being out down Osney way.
    Students are sly, and giving way to whim,
    He made a grab and caught her by the quim
    And said, 'Unless I have my will of you
    I'll die of secret love -- O, darling, do!'
    Then held her haunches hard and gave a cry
    'O love-me-all-at-once or I shall die!'

    The Miller's Tale, Geoffrey Chaucer

  18. SPIM?! by ndogg · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know that MIPS assembly can be tough to learn, but never thought CS students would ever get to the point of annoying people on the internet with it...

    Oh, err, nevermind...

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